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Yodac

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Post Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:06 pm

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Usually a balance of somesort between a couple different army types. 1 type can be good for most occasions, but the more balance of a couple you have, the better chance of winning against a large army and with bigger prestige gain, you have.

By balanced i dont mean 50% of 1 army and 50% of the other type. I mean something close to the same number.... More or less stay away from [0,120000,0,10]. That is not a balanced army.
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thLove

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Post Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:45 am

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In my opinion, it's always good to have two types of troops at least. For falling back on when thing goes wrong or even to be used as meat shields. It's definitely a plus.
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Falaron

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Post Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:02 pm

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thLove wrote: In my opinion, it's always good to have two types of troops at least. For falling back on when thing goes wrong or even to be used as meat shields. It's definitely a plus.


agreed
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Pollard118

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Post Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:57 am

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I recently battled using 15k/105k/110k/60k vs 2k/175k/9k/46k I had the more cats and I won a massive 548k so my opinion mainly cats have worked well for me
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jewzaku

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Post Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:21 pm

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sad but when it comes down to it cats and defending is the best army


maybe not for pp hits...but If you defend with 50k cats and meat shields expect to kill a lot more troops then you may even have...

cav/arch can't win against a cav/cat army inless cav/arch is just insanely bigger or cav/cat player can't command...

cats are just over powerd in this game with meat shield.....and if you get to defend...geez if you get to defend...game over
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Taem96

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Post Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:36 am

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Hmmmm..... Do not overestimate the power of the meatshield. Too many generals have and now rue the day that they did.

Cats most powerful? Not by a longshot.

Cav/arch? Debatable but I think not.

Pound for pound, the best bang for anyone's buck is infantry. It can't be disputed that they beat cav and maneuver quick enough that the speed differential is minimal. Compliment them with a healthy dose of archers or cats to deal with meatshields and you're unstoppable. Also don't forget the hunting advantages of mass infantry.

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jewzaku

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Post Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:47 am

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no pp gain with a mass inf army...you need to be atleast lvl18 to have the right stats for it....and the losses will be in the hundreds of thousands against cats.


plus the down side of a inf army is the rebuild time...you will loose weeks maybe a month of inf in a real fight plus the pp gain for makeing inf over Is crap

rebuilding a cat/cav army is fast plus much more pp gain.

7 citys make 249 cats a day,can easily do 4 builds of cats a day in all citys....no coins needed to speed ups

so inf may win in battle but the results arnt worth it....

no pp gain most likely
slow rebuild
no real pp gain from bulding over
plus by time your even back to half your size the cat/cav is already built back
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Taem96

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Post Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:10 pm

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I don't believe your thinking through your argument bro.

Yes, cats are powerful, yes they're shiny also, but they're also a pain in the neck to maintain and aren't guaranteed to win a given battle. In fact, cat vs cat is a crapshoot, usually the luckiest general wins that battle, not the most skilled. Observe what lucky strikes do to cat armies:
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Cats build faster than any unit, in terms of power and pres/build. Even so, the bigger you build your cat army, the harder it is to feed, especially compared to other units. With a lv20 barracks, you may build per city in 24 hours:

-3928 inf- 3928 crop/hr
-2477 arc- 4954 crop/hr
-1661 cav- 6644 crop/hr
-1234 cat- 12340 crop/hr

As you can see, after 24 hours of building, cats require 3x more food than inf yet pound for pound, the inf yields 2.5x more power than the cat.  In fact, vs cats, inf are 4x stronger! If you can justify the cats usefulness in feeding situations I'd love to hear it.

As for pres gain....you are grossly misinformed, or perhaps just lack the proper experience, but pres gain is phenomenal when using inf. observe:
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My rebuild here is around 10 days or so, my opponent needs only 7, if he has an army to farm with or money to buy wood and iron. Additionally, when compared to the ss above (cat vs. cat) in a week and a half I will have gained another 300k pres from rebuilding meaning my pres gain from that battle is similar to the cat victor in his battle. The difference? In the following week he's gonna be waking up at 3am every night to feed etc while my inf build and aren't in any danger of starvation. Not to mention while my opponent rebuilds I'll already have a sufficient army to wipe his rebuilding process, whereas his targets will need to be much smaller.

Now do you see my point? Inf=more power, less crop consumption, great pres gain, less pres loss, less hassle.....I could really go on all night.
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Post Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:32 am

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first your inf ss...prooves nothing

4% heal really? ofc you got pp

no inf or arch blocker?

he blocks with cav which gets one shoted

then straight to cats

if he had 2 more turns to block and a good heal outcome would be diff
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Taem96

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Post Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:14 pm

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Actually that ss proves much more than you know.... For starters, it proves your opinion is inaccurate. Allow me to reiterate:

jewzaku wrote:no pp gain with a mass inf army


As can clearly be seen in the ss, using inf did indeed garner quite a healthy sum of prestige, contrary to your beliefs.

Furthermore, the logistics of this particular battle are not in question. We could ask "what if" all day long (as I'm sure the guy who I mercilessly wiped was doing after the fact), but the truth is, if there was other blockers, I would have recomposed my army with archers to take care of them as well. 
I don't speculate as to "what if" though....I deal in facts and results, an the facts and results are there to behold, plain as day.

Let's go further....the first ss shows a cat/cav army facing off with a similar army. Each army requires around 900k crops/hr to maintain. That's for the birds. Why?

Take a look at my battle....the enemy boasts a crop cost of 800k/hr. using inf, I am able to defeat that with LESS crop outage (only 700k/hr) which is something that simply cannot be done with cats. This clearly demonstrates my point and in my eyes, proves that my sentiments hold value. 

And so, I'm still sticking to my guns. Inf remain the best!!!!!
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