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K2700

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Post Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:00 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

Dreamwizrd wrote:

So far all I am hearing from this is "I need more resources". Every day when I get on Haypi to feed my army, I have about full res. If I need more, I farm a local inactive and get about 200-400k res (depending on how much he had left when i farmed him last :p) so then I have a full wharehouse (which a lvl 20 wharehouse can hold 449k of everything). So pretty much by me saying this means "resources are not an issue".


im guessing that BP was not on, lol :)
Im not farming new players. Im farming lvl 12-14. So BP is not an issue.

This game requires alot of time. Dont expect to be level 20 or lvl 15 within a week


Is that so hard, with coins?
Its easier, but it is still hard

If you dont have any res to build with, this is where you close the app or go to wc and come back in 4 hours and see what ya got to work with.


But thats 4 hours doing nothing, i said i can get 12k of 1 res from farming ha_a players, in those 4 hours i can get 48K just from farming. how does not farming and closing the app for 4 hours help?

Farming people is going to get you res yes, but upgrading your mines will also help.

When you get to about lvl 10-13 this is were your buildings will all be a decent lvl and can start building a real army and be able to farm and hunt more efficently


How does having 1k inf help farm 800 res from ha_a players?

when 100 inf can take 2k easily, you only need 300 max. Then the players that you have cleared should be cleared of res with 300 inf too.

300 inf can bring back 24k in 1 run, i have found lv 2 players with 50k in their city. 2 runs and thats yours, but if BP is up you can do anything.

When you get a decent army your dont have to farm just ha_### players. You can farm other lvls and get much more.

Btw to get a better understanding of your situiation, can you please tell us your current lvl?


I have never got past lv10 as i have ran out of coins by then and cant be bothered to stop doing anything and sell all my res just to promote.

But im talking about all lvs from lv about 2-10, i can get to lv 9 in a week. But i still cant attack players around me with resources. And im going through all these ranks far slower than i should be.
Because when you are lv9 and BP has ran out 800 res doesnt mean much to you any more. Its still woth farming, but you should be looking for at least 10k in 1 run. Which you can get from some lv3 and 4s.


but you have to remember that haypi is a company and that they want you to spend money


Lowering BP will not lose them money


I can still get more resources from farming lv 4 players than i can from my own mines, lets say everyone has eaqual mines, except me who hasnt upgraded any mines, i clear 1 player, i then have the same production as anyone else, i clear 2 players i then have twice the production.

Then what do you do when you use those reasources? They have to generate more reasources.

By any chance were these mine guides wrote by the person who has a city next to you?
What do you mean by this? Everything that i have posted is comeing directly from me as it is just game knowledge that the majority of players know.
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Dreamwizrd

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Post Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:35 am

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

What do you mean by this? Everything that i have posted is comeing directly from me as it is just game knowledge that the majority of players know.




2. Sounds like you just need to upgrade. Upgrade your reasource buildings, when you see that your reasource buildings are producing enough, upgrade your wharehouse.

3. You really arent going to be getting large amounts of troops untill you get higher in level. Once you get your building up to a decent level you can start building thousands of troops in a week.




I suggest you read some of the guides on this forum and learn some more about the game:)




So these guides???


Im not farming new players. Im farming lvl 12-14. So BP is not an issue.


you seem to be refering to a different rank bracket to what i was refering to. Im sure i said that i was talking about ranks 2-10 or something. then your talking about 12-14.




This game requires alot of time. Dont expect to be level 20 or lvl 15 within a week

Is that so hard, with coins?
Its easier, but it is still hard


Are you saying you can get to rank 15 in 1 week without using a single coin?
but saying it will be hard.


Farming people is going to get you res yes, but upgrading your mines will also help.


did you not see my maths, upgrading your mines costs more, and gets you less resources. what you can get in an hour you can get in 5 minutes from ha_a players with less resources spent on troops.

(taking into account what rank bracket im talking about here, i know lv 20 mines will produce more than ha_a players, but by that time you would have quite a few farms to compare)


When you get a decent army your dont have to farm just ha_### players. You can farm other lvls and get much more.


is that just not the same as saying dont upgrade your mines, recruit troops and attack people?
which is what i have been trying to say.
Which is impossible in BP
and mine production is too low.
in rank bracket 2-10


Then what do you do when you use those reasources? They have to generate more reasources.


recruit troops, attack people, farm resources, build more troops attack better players, take their resources, build more troops, farm further out, kill more troops, get more pres, get more troops, get more resources.....
then once your farms vastly out produce your mines, you can upgrade your mines, as you will be able to get them up to a high lv where they are useful. As you will find that attack better still players requires attacking high troops counts, meaning that you have to rely of older farms producing not as many resources to feed your growth.

Thats when you upgrade your mines, and then you will be around rank 12 or somehting. IDK
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kaede-ds

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Post Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:42 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

This game is designed such that people who wants to be top rank players, must spend money. They did it in a way such that you will not want to let your current status go to waste and then they give you a new update so you can spend more coins.

Its simple maths.... to the developers. If you can't or are not willing to spend, then don't play :D

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Nathan05

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Post Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:53 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

ok kaede people will quit but the suggestions forum is not the right place to announce such things this is for discussing suggestions only
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Post Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:50 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

But he is not wrong. And he is backing up my evidence for my suggestions.

I don't mind the fact that haypi has to make a profit and so has to charge money for coins. And coins make the game easier to play. What I don't like is they make the game vastly easier to play and stupidly hard to play without ever using a coin. But you get 30 which does help quite a bit.

I have been reading forums. And I'm not the only one to complain about BP being too high.

I can't see much changing about coins.

But lowering BP 2 or 3 days will not effect later game play. It will make it easier to get to lv 7 and 10.
After lv10 things slow down so more time can be spent getting money.

I remember a common phrase used by k7 something like if they are not lv 4 in 7 days then the need beginners protection.

No they don't if you can't get to lv 4 in 3 days you deserve to be farmed.if you get to lv 4 in 3 days you should have the chance to defend your village. And then be farmed. Any less and they deserve to play normally.

That's how I see it.

But I understand people are happy being less active. So I can't see why it shouldn't be lowered to 4 days.
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Post Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:05 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

it is not impossible to play without coins i quite happily lvl my old s1 account to lvl 17 with ease you just have to work a little harder thats all, and it is only easy with coins if other people leave troops out, having coins does not mean you neccesarily can gain prestige easier unless people leave troops out, so the only reason people with coins get pp easily is cos they can warp to people who leave troops out.

and the in the BP thing i completely disagree with you as if you lower the main BP period you may have to lower the PVP BP which would not be good
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Post Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:46 am

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

I have never played pvp, and I struggle to find out what awards I have and haven’t done, i don’t know whats its like.

But why change BP on both servers, just new non pvp ones?

and it is only easy with coins if other people leave troops out, having coins does not mean you neccesarily can gain prestige easier unless people leave troops out, so the only reason people with coins get pp easily is cos they can warp to people who leave troops out.


I can work out your time zone just by scouting your city throughout the day, work out their offline times when they have troops in their village, send mails as confirmation.
You will find that people have routines, they will follow a pattern, know your enemy and you don’t need to warp, as long as you’re not attacking like 5 hours out.
But why would you have an enemy 5 hours out?

I guess that they could warp to a city and send attack landing in 20 seconds, which can catch people off guard.
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Post Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:50 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

it is useful having coins, and people have routines but most dont i know i dont cos i stay up till 5am at least1-2 times a week to confuse people,
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Post Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:33 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

Suggestion:

Other than what i have already said which i still stand by


Can you get rid of the imortant anouncements, its annoying to see them on every forum section


Winners of Haypi in Reflection


Winners of “Write a review, Win an ipad” Competition


the last post on 1 was september, and the other is july. Hardly improtant.
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Post Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:09 pm

Re: My views/suggestions on haypi

seperate threads should be used for fresh ideas unless the idea has been suggested before.
and these are tributes to winners of haypi competitions, they should stay in remembrance
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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