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Post Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:56 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

I find attk instead of speed helps a lot for cat vs cav builds also.
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Post Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:29 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

thanks for the info GoldenRico ;)
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Post Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:47 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

Adina329 wrote:I find attk instead of speed helps a lot for cat vs cav builds also.

yeah but cats vs cav.... this is very useless later, 1 cav can kill 1 cat with good skills & attribute/techs

u can have 2,5 x cav than cats ... so cats are often useless against cats
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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:42 am

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

Adina329 wrote:I find attk instead of speed helps a lot for cat vs cav builds also.

Not sure what the highest general lvl is or how armies are made on your server but on S3 when the elites fight we fight with minimum 60k cav army and 50-90k cats. When you are at that level of fight you need both def and healing to save you. Attack like I mentioned prior will work on your everyday noob but when you dealing with a Vet player or an Elite player you need that max speed and def so you can salvage some type of prestige from the bloody battle that will ensue
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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:01 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

Speed!

Speed, speed. Speed, speed, speed. No matter what build, no matter what tier of play, you can never go wrong with maxing speed before any other stat.

- Faster travel times across the map (Crucial).
- Fewer turns for melee to reach the enemy (Critical).
- Striking first in combat (Imperative).
- Better hunt results in terms of gold (Icing on the cake).

No one stat will grant you more overall benefits than Speed. While its true that at the upper tier of gameplay the defender will often be the one striking first due to both having max speed and same units (Cav), no one would even reach that level of play without having max speed in the first place.

When you can deliver up to 30 attacks per hour with a cav army, you simply have no way to loose. Why wait around for 20+ minutes to see your 3K cats reach a target, when you can bludgeon exponentially more targets with a fast army?

After that comes defense for sure. True, this stat may be negligible at the earlier stages of the game, but once you reach a level where armies simply reach numbers that confound the mind, it all becomes a matter of who looses less troops. Striking first, and surviving the counter-strike in return is the key to this game once you reach that 20k+ Cav, or 10k+ Cat marker.

Attack is still decent to consider. Pretty much the best way to negate an oponent's high defense, but only if you can be absolutely certain you WILL be the one striking first. The more you kill, the less you get hit back. As you can see, this is a big gamble. Defense is safer by far.

Lastly comes fortune. This one is almost worthless. Players with max fortune are very good at one thing, and one thing only...

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Post Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:50 am

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

Here's a question. I am now farming level 4 forts, I have about 1100 cats, if I want to eventually switch to a cav build, when is it a good time to switch to a cav build and still be able to fort farm efficiently?
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Post Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:37 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

Khades wrote:Here's a question. I am now farming level 4 forts, I have about 1100 cats, if I want to eventually switch to a cav build, when is it a good time to switch to a cav build and still be able to fort farm efficiently?


i dont think you should farm with a cav build. there is a huge loss to attack with cav
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Post Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:56 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

it varies for what units you want probly posted 7 or 8 times but to lazy to read more then the question and a few replies down but this is the stats over all i think speed is a definite must for reasons it slows moveing time and distance moved in battle. also some people say speed affects hunts? i dont think it does im just posting for reasons unknown but usualy

calv users: max speed then defence im not a calv user but im only guessing defence so the amount of calv u lose by turrets and cats before u hit are reduced. i have only been told a few times a calv user went speed attack and speed fortune they both would have pretty big denfance flaws agenst cats with speed fortune or speed attack.

cat users: i am a cat user and i went speed and attack i wish i went speed fortune but what ever. i have herd speed defence cats are good but i keep hearing speed fortune cats are the best because of attack double attack i also herd there a triple but never had fortune over 35 so i never had one.

arch users: never herd of an archer main units stats i think this build would be a fail but i would imagine build would be similar to cats.

inf users: so far that i know of inf users r just so they get good hunts like your missing teasures for a rank up. im guessing speed fortune is the thing here for better hunts but for an inf army im guessing it would mainly be speed defence for one used for attacking. im not sure how effective this tactic will be.

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Post Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:41 am

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

vy168 wrote:
Khades wrote:Here's a question. I am now farming level 4 forts, I have about 1100 cats, if I want to eventually switch to a cav build, when is it a good time to switch to a cav build and still be able to fort farm efficiently?


i dont think you should farm with a cav build. there is a huge loss to attack with cav



Well someone told me, that with a cav only buid, they farm lvl 8 forts with only 112 cavs lost. He said uses about 60k cavs to do it though, should I wait until speed is maxed before transfering to a cav build? how much defense should i have before doing this?

What about techs? defense and marching maxed?
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Post Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:04 pm

Re: Stats (Attack, "Defence", Fortune, Speed)

i am the one who told u that. its best to convert to cav cat first then full cav. i was lvl18 when i use my 60k cav to farm lvl8 fort. a good time to change ur stats will most likely be in 1st marquis or 3rd duke. that is when ur defense will be sufficient. u need all the best equipment, max marching, attack and defense tech for this.
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