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psylem_190

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Post Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:36 pm

Sacrificing for Tokens

How many tokens do you get for sacrificing epic monsters at S rank?
How many tokens do you get for sacrificing epic monsters at A rank vs. A- rank? Is there a difference?

Just kinda wondering if it is worth it to enhance a monster to S rank or leave at A rank for tokens.
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Post Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:10 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

Epics:
For a lvl 50 S rank you get 35 tokens.
lvl 50 B+ is 26 tokens (4 A- stats and 2 B stats)
lvl 50 A+ (has 5 S stats 1 A stat) is 34 tokens
depends on how many stats your have up high to maximize your tokens.

for a bronze its about 54 tokens
silver about 89 tokens
gold 115 tokens

The Upgraded monsters depends on your stat bets, if your maxed betting its higher

Hope that helps a little for you,

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Post Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:55 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

That helps so much! Thank you Bull :)

In addition to that, will sacrificing an epic lvl 1 rank S give me 35 tokens too? Do levels matter?
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Post Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:25 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

Both level and S rank can affect how many tokens you can get.

BTW, I just wonder which methood could be best option, saving time, exp, and silver.
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Post Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:58 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

dunghoang wrote:Both level and S rank can affect how many tokens you can get.

BTW, I just wonder which methood could be best option, saving time, exp, and silver.


Good question!
It takes roughly 14.5 million xp to lvl from 1-50, Then it takes 1.7 million silver to make it S rank, not to mention the slimes and/or crap mobs you need to use up.

But if you dont enhance it and level it? at lvl 1 E rank you get 1 token.

Explore just SUKS so much now I think I would rather sacrifice Epics, The only tokens you would have trouble getting would be Fire, Physicals, and Ice. Mainly because you cant seal those in caves or Tame easily.

It would be SOOO much better if Haypi would take tokens off sacrificing and put Explore back to or better than before!!

Pre update: I would get to 26/30 before I quit explore. That was what? 15-20 chests a day?
Post update: I quit after 10/30 (3 chests) reset (3 chests) and thats it. 6 chests a day even with the extra reset and possibility of multi tokens in a chest, compared to average 15-20 a day prior...???? You tell me?

AND then they added more monsters to get in alchemy by tokens and our intake decreases (From Explore)

I dont really want to sacrifice Epics for tokens, seeing that I got burnt early on in this game. I probably sacrificed 8-10 Blazes before "upgrading" was even introduced ingame. Got em from eggs.. If I had kept them? LMAO Gold Blazes all around!!

Game needs some balancing out I think.

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Post Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:53 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

Totally agree with you Bullhead!

Asume that you can get 20 tokens per day. Assume that you can get 600 tokens per day and possibly get 5 types of legendary sroll. Then you have to level up all five monsters to prepare for synthesis; it could cost you 3-4 weeks. You have to spend 3-4 weeks to level up legendary monster and make it S rank. It looks like you have to spend 2.5-3 months to earn 1 legendary monster and 9 months for silver one.

The issue is that even you can easily earn tokens from exploration, you have to spend 36 months to earn a legendary team with 4 silver rank. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

No one wants to sacrifice their current gold or silver epic to earn tokens. They may begin catching a new epic to sacrifice. Therefore, it could be 5-6 months to earn 1 legendary monster and 12 months for a silver one. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

It could be the purpose of making exploration harder. Players have to be loyal with the game for longer and longer time??? Just my opinion
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:43 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

So I asked around and looked at my monsters and it seems to me like everyone agrees that a lvl50 epic at E rank will give you 3 tokens, while a lvl1 epic E rank will give you 1 token. Doesn't seem like level matters all that much.

Then comes the next point of why anyone is bothering to upgrade the monsters to bronze or silver and sacrifice since you save more exp cards, silver, and get more tokens by sacrificing 2 S rank lvl 1 epics as compared to an Bronze lvl50 epic. >.>
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:09 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

psylem_190 wrote:So I asked around and looked at my monsters and it seems to me like everyone agrees that a lvl50 epic at E rank will give you 3 tokens, while a lvl1 epic E rank will give you 1 token. Doesn't seem like level matters all that much.

Then comes the next point of why anyone is bothering to upgrade the monsters to bronze or silver and sacrifice since you save more exp cards, silver, and get more tokens by sacrificing 2 S rank lvl 1 epics as compared to an Bronze lvl50 epic. >.>


Did anyone you talked to have a S rank Lvl 1? I would almost bet that the level does affect it, when compounded with the ranking. Such as maybe a S rank lvl 1 drops say 12 tokens? And at lvl 50 its a multiplier x 3 so a lvl 50 S drops 35-36? I do not know, just guessing here. It would be interesting to know what a S lvl 1 drops..??..

Surely you would get tokens for leveling to 50 that would be substantial, At 14.5 million xp to 50?

You mentioned "more tokens from 2 lvl 1 S epics compared to a bronze".. got some numbers? or values to share please? Im interested in this topic now, so I Neeeds to Know LOL!
Thanks psylem_190.

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Post Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:56 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

Hopefully my pics post properly.

The first pic is of my lvl 1 boopie at S rank. So assuming you're correct about lvl50 S rank = 35, and my boopie at lvl1 S rank = 32. That would imply that you would only gain 3 tokens for going from lvl1 to lvl50. Not much of a payoff.

In addition, you actually get more than 54 tokens from Bronze epic. In my case, I took a look at my bronze claw (so bronze S at lvl 50) = 62. So if we just sacrifice a pair of lvl 1 S rank boopies, each at 32 tokens, it would total 64.

In comparison, and also by the logic that the tokens are the same from each monster, you would have to get a pair of boopies, lvl one of them to 50, and use 1mill to make it bronze. The payoff would be 62 tokens.

I guess realistically, you would be wasting 1mill silver, wasting how ever much exp cards it takes to lvl to 50 a single monster, and losing 2 tokens from sacrificing a bronze over a pair of lvl 1 S ranks. On the other hand, you would have to get 2 monsters to S rank which also requires silver. I guess it comes down to resources you have, like if you have tons of exp cards to waste or tons of monsters to sacrifice. :/ Hopefully I did my math right. In the case of additionally wasted cards, you might have to lvl a monster up to a lvl that would make it evolve and use an evolution item, but this only applies to monsters that evolved.

Lemme know if anyone has any other numbers. I'm using whatever info I have available to me so basically my own account.
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Post Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:06 am

Re: Sacrificing for Tokens

Just for verification purposes I posted pics of token amounts for silver brawny and gold neon.

Annnndddd for comparison purposes:
1 silver = 86 vs. 3 lvl 1 S ranks = 96
1 gold = 109 vs. 5 lvl 1 S ranks = 160

Assuming the token amounts are consistent.

Edit: Keeping in mind that you have to take into account not just tokens but silver, exp, and enhancement monsters as possible trade offs.
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