120 moves

Why is it that water torrent and Super Thunderstorm puts you in confusion if you miss?

I also wanna point out how come when you throw massive boulder or super firebomb and you miss why doesn't your defense decrease(massive boulder) and your attack doesn't decrease(super firebomb). Shouldn't they be the same as WT and STS? They shouldn't put you in a confusion, it should just count as a miss.

Any thoughts?

+1

I believe it was like this at first, then they changed it, then changed it back or something like that. They don't know what they're doing.

You'll never know what haypi is doing btw where's Bull?

You'll never know what haypi is doing btw where's Bull?

I hope he didnt quit

[Koenaj]

Agreed, either do it for all skills, or none. This will make Cerb & Setanic/Minotaur even more OP as they are.

Yes , good point !
or maybe instead of stun they could make it confused for a turn

I think on any "super" skill if you miss, then you should not get a debuff. Be it massive boulder, STS, SFB, or any 120 damage move.

I think on any "super" skill if you miss, then you should not get a debuff. Be it massive boulder, STS, SFB, or any 120 damage move.

Exactly if you do it to some, you better do it to them all.

Doesn't attack decrease after SFB?