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junicobakura

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:21 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Lord.Rex wrote:Trust me I know the game is unbalanced, I've been saying that for a while now. Doesn't mean I want it to become worse. I personally love my rare monsters, my Champ has been as useful as my flights in a pinch, and I've always liked shriek more than meniss. I do wish they could learn some variety of advanced skill, as they have the stats to really do damage, but I wouldn't want them to be op with epic and legendary talents or be able to learn all advanced moves. For example branchy has great atk, not so great matk (20 point difference at level 50 about) and yet the best physical plant move he can learn is vine whip, poison petals is stronger but it's matk. I would love a branchy with poison petals or razor leaves. Same goes for a blocky with boulder, a psychoe with mind bending, or a champ with frenzied attack. It wold certainly bring them back into the game more so and with more variety, but still won't be strong enough to completely dominate epics, as it should be. As for the common and uncommon well there's a reason they're so easy to get. They aren't meant to be used en masse, only for synth and daily capture+blessing/sacrifice. Their stats aren't that great anyway, a cheeky gogo, or stabbey is no match for a champ so just stop complaining that you can't use em and use rare. Or if you want to win use epics like everyone else and just be the better player.


LOL, Sure, Stabbey will be no match to a Champ, skill bashing head on, but if you put strategy, given that they are able to use Advanced Skills, with Stabbey's Bulk, it can Lethal Poison Stall a Champ by Lethal Powder and Foresight, now that's strategy.

It's not about the Stats, Rex, it's about the Wide Variety of Strategies you can think of if they are able to learn Advanced Skills,

Sure, Powch has weak stats, with Average speed, but that's enough for it, Imagine it with Inverse Super Fire Bomb!! Wait what? Overpowered? NO! Due to it's Paper like Defenses, a Faster Mon Should be able to Defeat it.
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Lord.Rex

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:02 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

junicobakura wrote:
Lord.Rex wrote:Trust me I know the game is unbalanced, I've been saying that for a while now. Doesn't mean I want it to become worse. I personally love my rare monsters, my Champ has been as useful as my flights in a pinch, and I've always liked shriek more than meniss. I do wish they could learn some variety of advanced skill, as they have the stats to really do damage, but I wouldn't want them to be op with epic and legendary talents or be able to learn all advanced moves. For example branchy has great atk, not so great matk (20 point difference at level 50 about) and yet the best physical plant move he can learn is vine whip, poison petals is stronger but it's matk. I would love a branchy with poison petals or razor leaves. Same goes for a blocky with boulder, a psychoe with mind bending, or a champ with frenzied attack. It wold certainly bring them back into the game more so and with more variety, but still won't be strong enough to completely dominate epics, as it should be. As for the common and uncommon well there's a reason they're so easy to get. They aren't meant to be used en masse, only for synth and daily capture+blessing/sacrifice. Their stats aren't that great anyway, a cheeky gogo, or stabbey is no match for a champ so just stop complaining that you can't use em and use rare. Or if you want to win use epics like everyone else and just be the better player.


LOL, Sure, Stabbey will be no match to a Champ, skill bashing head on, but if you put strategy, given that they are able to use Advanced Skills, with Stabbey's Bulk, it can Lethal Poison Stall a Champ by Lethal Powder and Foresight, now that's strategy.

It's not about the Stats, Rex, it's about the Wide Variety of Strategies you can think of if they are able to learn Advanced Skills,

Sure, Powch has weak stats, with Average speed, but that's enough for it, Imagine it with Inverse Super Fire Bomb!! Wait what? Overpowered? NO! Due to it's Paper like Defenses, a Faster Mon Should be able to beat it


Those last two points contradict themselves. You say stats DON'T matter then say he has crap defense and speed and therefore will die easily, which means 2 things. Firstly stats DO in fact matter just as much as the skills. Secondly common and uncommon monsters suck. A lot. And you know why they do? Cause they have bad stats. That's why I said if you gave em the ability to learn those skills you have to increase their stats because otherwise the epics will, as they should, because anything below rare is terrible. Moves make the monsters that's true, but without stats they're both useless. Sure they have potential with talents but even with good skills they just won't cut it unless haypi completely rewrites the stats of commons and uncommons.
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euanenzo

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:03 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Lord.Rex wrote:Trust me I know the game is unbalanced, I've been saying that for a while now. Doesn't mean I want it to become worse. I personally love my rare monsters, my Champ has been as useful as my flights in a pinch, and I've always liked shriek more than meniss. I do wish they could learn some variety of advanced skill, as they have the stats to really do damage, but I wouldn't want them to be op with epic and legendary talents or be able to learn all advanced moves. For example branchy has great atk, not so great matk (20 point difference at level 50 about) and yet the best physical plant move he can learn is vine whip, poison petals is stronger but it's matk. I would love a branchy with poison petals or razor leaves. Same goes for a blocky with boulder, a psychoe with mind bending, or a champ with frenzied attack. It wold certainly bring them back into the game more so and with more variety, but still won't be strong enough to completely dominate epics, as it should be. As for the common and uncommon well there's a reason they're so easy to get. They aren't meant to be used en masse, only for synth and daily capture+blessing/sacrifice. Their stats aren't that great anyway, a cheeky gogo, or stabbey is no match for a champ so just stop complaining that you can't use em and use rare. Or if you want to win use epics like everyone else and just be the better player.



I am the better player, why? I am just dumb founded by the number of simpletons who just knows the very obvious and simple thing to do in a game like this, "get the strongest monsters, level it up, get the best and strongest skill for it and go nuke the other opponent to death." Im the better player because i take pride and pleasure when i beat the sh** out of this kinds of player and be stunned in denial and in disbelief because their expected godlike and uber strong and unbeatable team be wiped out by what you say are useless monsters. When you expect that there is strategy already in play when beating these epic teams, its a much deeper strategy when you go and beat them with weaker monsters.

Its priceless for me when i beat the hell out of the good players in my server using these weak monsters even to the point that they quit the match and deny they didnt just not to lose their pvp points. Some of my favorite monsters:

Cursie
Electroe
Champ
Igneous

I'd go for Powch if there was only a skill that can lower its stat but there is not a single intermediate skill that does it.

So what am i saying here? I am asking and requesting HAYPI to expand this part further, if i can do this with these said monsters what more if they improve on this more? The introduction of the DUAL DUEL really was good in expanding gameplay, it made the use of these lower class monsters possible in competitive play. At the moment, my team is a mixture of epic, rare and common monsters. So far, the uncommons terribly suck. There are no great mystery talents given to them.

The motivation that keeps me playing this game is the fact that i am able to beat those players who have deep pockets that get and use legendary monsters as their main team, though what i use to do this are rare level monsters still, it a different level compared to a legendary or epic.

I know HAYPI is focusing in making and releasing lots of this supposed to be a few special monsters because of money, but they also need players like us for these players,to be challenging for them and keep them playing.
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junicobakura

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:40 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Yes, twist the words of the person you are arguing with, just so you can feel better for youself.

Stats doesn't matter != it's not about the stats.

I'm so sorry.

I guess the fear of getting beat by the Commons and Uncommons is just too much for you. :(
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Lord.Rex

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:47 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

euanenzo wrote:
Lord.Rex wrote:Trust me I know the game is unbalanced, I've been saying that for a while now. Doesn't mean I want it to become worse. I personally love my rare monsters, my Champ has been as useful as my flights in a pinch, and I've always liked shriek more than meniss. I do wish they could learn some variety of advanced skill, as they have the stats to really do damage, but I wouldn't want them to be op with epic and legendary talents or be able to learn all advanced moves. For example branchy has great atk, not so great matk (20 point difference at level 50 about) and yet the best physical plant move he can learn is vine whip, poison petals is stronger but it's matk. I would love a branchy with poison petals or razor leaves. Same goes for a blocky with boulder, a psychoe with mind bending, or a champ with frenzied attack. It wold certainly bring them back into the game more so and with more variety, but still won't be strong enough to completely dominate epics, as it should be. As for the common and uncommon well there's a reason they're so easy to get. They aren't meant to be used en masse, only for synth and daily capture+blessing/sacrifice. Their stats aren't that great anyway, a cheeky gogo, or stabbey is no match for a champ so just stop complaining that you can't use em and use rare. Or if you want to win use epics like everyone else and just be the better player.



I am the better player, why? I am just dumb founded by the number of simpletons who just knows the very obvious and simple thing to do in a game like this, "get the strongest monsters, level it up, get the best and strongest skill for it and go nuke the other opponent to death." Im the better player because i take pride and pleasure when i beat the sh** out of this kinds of player and be stunned in denial and in disbelief because their expected godlike and uber strong and unbeatable team be wiped out by what you say are useless monsters. When you expect that there is strategy already in play when beating these epic teams, its a much deeper strategy when you go and beat them with weaker monsters.

Its priceless for me when i beat the hell out of the good players in my server using these weak monsters even to the point that they quit the match and deny they didnt just not to lose their pvp points. Some of my favorite monsters:

Cursie
Electroe
Champ
Igneous

I'd go for Powch if there was only a skill that can lower its stat but there is not a single intermediate skill that does it.

So what am i saying here? I am asking and requesting HAYPI to expand this part further, if i can do this with these said monsters what more if they improve on this more? The introduction of the DUAL DUEL really was good in expanding gameplay, it made the use of these lower class monsters possible in competitive play. At the moment, my team is a mixture of epic, rare and common monsters. So far, the uncommons terribly suck. There are no great mystery talents given to them.

The motivation that keeps me playing this game is the fact that i am able to beat those players who have deep pockets that get and use legendary monsters as their main team, though what i use to do this are rare level monsters still, it a different level compared to a legendary or epic.

I know HAYPI is focusing in making and releasing lots of this supposed to be a few special monsters because of money, but they also need players like us for these players,to be challenging for them and keep them playing.


The sad part is I have a champ, psychoe, branchy, and shriek that would destroy that team lol. Your server sucks just like you do, heck I have an alt account that can probably beat half the players there if they're losing to that pathetic assortment of monsters. Keep dreaming dude, maybe one day you'll be as good as you think you are.
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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:36 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Lord.Rex wrote:
euanenzo wrote:
Lord.Rex wrote:Trust me I know the game is unbalanced, I've been saying that for a while now. Doesn't mean I want it to become worse. I personally love my rare monsters, my Champ has been as useful as my flights in a pinch, and I've always liked shriek more than meniss. I do wish they could learn some variety of advanced skill, as they have the stats to really do damage, but I wouldn't want them to be op with epic and legendary talents or be able to learn all advanced moves. For example branchy has great atk, not so great matk (20 point difference at level 50 about) and yet the best physical plant move he can learn is vine whip, poison petals is stronger but it's matk. I would love a branchy with poison petals or razor leaves. Same goes for a blocky with boulder, a psychoe with mind bending, or a champ with frenzied attack. It wold certainly bring them back into the game more so and with more variety, but still won't be strong enough to completely dominate epics, as it should be. As for the common and uncommon well there's a reason they're so easy to get. They aren't meant to be used en masse, only for synth and daily capture+blessing/sacrifice. Their stats aren't that great anyway, a cheeky gogo, or stabbey is no match for a champ so just stop complaining that you can't use em and use rare. Or if you want to win use epics like everyone else and just be the better player.



I am the better player, why? I am just dumb founded by the number of simpletons who just knows the very obvious and simple thing to do in a game like this, "get the strongest monsters, level it up, get the best and strongest skill for it and go nuke the other opponent to death." Im the better player because i take pride and pleasure when i beat the sh** out of this kinds of player and be stunned in denial and in disbelief because their expected godlike and uber strong and unbeatable team be wiped out by what you say are useless monsters. When you expect that there is strategy already in play when beating these epic teams, its a much deeper strategy when you go and beat them with weaker monsters.

Its priceless for me when i beat the hell out of the good players in my server using these weak monsters even to the point that they quit the match and deny they didnt just not to lose their pvp points. Some of my favorite monsters:

Cursie
Electroe
Champ
Igneous

I'd go for Powch if there was only a skill that can lower its stat but there is not a single intermediate skill that does it.

So what am i saying here? I am asking and requesting HAYPI to expand this part further, if i can do this with these said monsters what more if they improve on this more? The introduction of the DUAL DUEL really was good in expanding gameplay, it made the use of these lower class monsters possible in competitive play. At the moment, my team is a mixture of epic, rare and common monsters. So far, the uncommons terribly suck. There are no great mystery talents given to them.

The motivation that keeps me playing this game is the fact that i am able to beat those players who have deep pockets that get and use legendary monsters as their main team, though what i use to do this are rare level monsters still, it a different level compared to a legendary or epic.

I know HAYPI is focusing in making and releasing lots of this supposed to be a few special monsters because of money, but they also need players like us for these players,to be challenging for them and keep them playing.


The sad part is I have a champ, psychoe, branchy, and shriek that would destroy that team lol. Your server sucks just like you do, heck I have an alt account that can probably beat half the players there if they're losing to that pathetic assortment of monsters. Keep dreaming dude, maybe one day you'll be as good as you think you are.


Better wise up in commenting and don't pretend your an expert, kinda hurts when you slip up isn't it? Your such a simpleton. Collecting enemies are we? Seems you have arguments on every thread you replied on to.

Now you have a team of such useless monsters? I thought you said they were useless, now you say you can beat mine? What a hypocrite. You cant accept the fact that what you commented is so typical for a non critical individual isn't it? It showed how shallow your take of the game is. Don't act like it, from your comments i don't even think you'll reach my fourth monster when we match up. :mrgreen:
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junicobakura

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:58 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Butthurt :lol:

Seriously, he thinks he's pro, but he's just another wannabe.
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Lord.Rex

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:17 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

I said the uncommon and commons are useless. Not rares. Perhaps you should learn to read before trying to be smart? A+ branchy, S shriek, A+ psychoe, A+ champ, hardly the E- joeys and pincheys you find. I also never said that was my team, just said I had them. My main team changes based on what I'm doing and who I'm facing, 4 flights; Draco, branchy, 2 flights; 2 Cerberus, psychoe, champ (great pvp combo); 3 flights, Draco; those are the recent teams, I also have a brawny, smiter, scythe, pewgway, etc.... I can use. Personally I'd love to see any of your precious "undefeated" (un)common monsters beat any of my monsters, shame ill never see them get annihilated seeing as you're not on my server (thankfully)
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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:29 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Lord.Rex wrote:I said the uncommon and commons are useless. Not rares. Perhaps you should learn to read before trying to be smart? A+ branchy, S shriek, A+ psychoe, A+ champ, hardly the E- joeys and pincheys you find. I also never said that was my team, just said I had them. My main team changes based on what I'm doing and who I'm facing, 4 flights; Draco, branchy, 2 flights; 2 Cerberus, psychoe, champ (great pvp combo); 3 flights, Draco; those are the recent teams, I also have a brawny, smiter, scythe, pewgway, etc.... I can use. Personally I'd love to see any of your precious "undefeated" (un)common monsters beat any of my monsters, shame ill never see them get annihilated seeing as you're not on my server (thankfully)


Such a child. How pathetic. Stop wasting pages of this thread with your non sense post, heck stop posting to any threads at all, you just clutter the discussion and drive it out of topic. Pretenders and hypocrites have no place here and they are bound to be bullied in this world. Please.

Admins, if you can kindly monitor this thread. Its going out of topic.
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euanenzo

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Post Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:34 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

junicobakura wrote:Butthurt :lol:

Seriously, he thinks he's pro, but he's just another wannabe.


Seriously, i am amazed how many posts this guy made. Judging from how he replies and comments in this thread, damn, how many non sense and unreliable posts he has made to the point that he influenced some poor players.
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