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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:00 pm

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

The title of the topic to may have been poorly chosen ...

The problem is not just rewards, I am for the idea of ​​giving competitiveness in PvP and make it more popular!

The problem would be the PvP system in which a few flaws.

Indeed by 2vs2 team with a partner who has a low point you are winning all the shots!

Some are convinced that when the PvP is frequented have a little chance of getting what you want and therefore more likely to fall against real players but that is completely FALSE!

I have experienced during the double event honor and I just make sure that even with frequent PvP you can easily play as if you were alone ;)!

Conclusion: there will be more people in PvP but no fun!

100 coins you seem little but you can not even imagine the number of players who would be willing to do everything for it!

The motivation? Free orange 2 eggs per week!

You'll be amazed at what people are willing to do for 2 eggs ;)!

It's sad but if the PvP was better thought there will have a real competition and pleasure to receive the award.
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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:51 pm

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

I duno if this was allready mentioned, cause i ain't got time to read all answers, but maybe it's not like only the 1st Player gets a coin benefit.

Maybe it's like this:

1st = 100
2nd = 50
3rd = 25
4-10 = 15
10-20 = 5-10

even if the 1st place allways goes to same player u even got enough chances to get under Top 20 (was just a sugestion ;) )and get free coins every week.

I rather take between 50-5 free coins, then only the 2 free coins a day.


Think of it.

P.S.: If it is not i'm totally on ur side, that 100 coins for 1 person is to much.
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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

agree to lexoph
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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:44 pm

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Kanger wrote:Lexoph, the problem is not with the reward but with allowing boosting exploits. There seems to be no way to enforce anti-boosting. I agree that it is unfair. We have people with scores above 3200 on our server. Ridiculous.

They also use a different exploit where they use 4 devices and play 2 vs 2 against themselves to boost their own scores on their main account while keeping their alt accounts at a score of 200 or less.

I hope Haypi finds a way to restrict such exploits.

Guys, I'm not saying that giving rewards is unfair. I'm saying that the rewards are too much. They need to decrease or change them. You can't just award 100 gold coins EVERY WEEK. As I said in my posts, I am NOT AT ALL opposed to rewards. In fact, I am all for them. I think it will definitely make the PvP more active.
My problem is that this is too much. 100 gold coins EVERY WEEK is more than what most people can spend in the game. I understand you still need to invest some into PvP-ing but it's not like the other players who want to get to the top doesn't invest as much or even more. It is unfair that only those who have 2 devices can get all the 100 gold coins. Even if the second place gets 50 coins, the person who will get the top spot almost every week is in such an advantageous spot.
100 gold coins is a LOT. Some people may not think it is a lot but it is EVERY WEEK. In 1 month, you'll get at least 400 gold coins. Come on! I am a VIP5 and have spent past that but I doubt spent more than 100 gold coins a week, if I average it out. That means that this one person never has to purchase these gold coins while the rest has to - even if they exert the same amount of effort, more likely more. It is not fair to have that.
Trust me, in most servers, there will always be that one person who will get the top spot. The second spot might always be held by another player with 2 devices, similar for third. Therefore, everyone shouldn't just say that they are content of having this. Wouldn't you be annoyed to never have the chance of getting those spots even if you keep trying?
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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:46 pm

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cakeller98 wrote:Nope... 100 coins is too many? Really? Hahahahahah.... That's just silly talk.

Coins are too expensive in the first place. I'm all for keeping things semi-accessible. But really 100 coins causing an uproar?

Well, it is awarded EVERY WEEK. Do you seriously think that's not a lot? If it's once a month, then, it might be okay. But this is EVERY WEEK. 400 gold coins to, most likely, just one player.

Also, I agree, as long as it's fair. It's okay. But it isn't. That's why it's an uproar.
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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:54 pm

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HamaniDrake wrote:And dont forget something really important , that eggs legendries are so OVERPOWERED !! And it changes every months , so basicly if someon got first in pvp weekly for a month he will have 400 gold coins + the daily gold coins which is worth 60 gold coins per month , it means that player will have 460 gold coins EVERY month !! And that is like 10 or 11 orange eggs !!!!! , so if that player got all the legendry it will be infair for other players man , i mean fenrir already is a pain with only lvl 50 , and i dont even want to know how he will be when he is lvl 60 !! And as i can see that fire legendery with such HIGH def and speed is wow!! , so its like u are making this over powerd eggs legendry more likely to be free for the pvp dominators , oh and dont forget these legendries comes with 120 power skills , and now u can upgrade them ! , so iam so doomed :) iam not even vip !! How can i survive in this game any longer ??!!?? :(

Exactly! 100 gold coins is too much! It is a lot for a week. People don't realize that it is EVERY WEEK. I urge everyone to understand this. Think about how much you've spent in the game and think about this one person (more likely) who will get all these gold coins in a month.

Koenaj wrote:This feature on the PvP system would only make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Thank you! I mentioned this before and I'm glad someone is thinking the same.

howardchung wrote:Could anyone tell me what is PvP stand for?

For the high score people, are they doing PvP?

Thanks for your attention

PvP is player versus player. ^^

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't have the time to access the game much today - after I left in the morning.

Kanger wrote:Ache, I agree with you. I think there should be a minimum integral to play PVP. Maybe, have the lowest PVP score anyone can have be set at 1,400 or so in order to prevent the cheating. Some legitimate players may lose and get there scores lowered up to a 100 points, but this will prevent the intentional lowering of people's alt accounts to ridiculously low scores of 200 or less.

This may be a way. It will certainly even the playing field a bit more.
However, there will still be loopholes with this idea. But it will be a good start!

Nochotwo wrote:100 coins sounds like a lot, but it really isn't. It is two dice boxes, two orange eggs or two days of full training (2+4+6+40). I hope that it ends up some kind of weekly rotation, or even though I loathe them, a prize wheel. Either of those would be okay. I imagine that the first few weeks will be super hectic, but doing that much pvp week in and week out will get tiresome very quickly. Also another note is, the people will be doing so much pvp, they won't be doing the new levels over and over for monster xp.

100 coins is EVERY WEEK. You need to realize this. It's not just a once off or a monthly reward. It is every week that most likely only one person, or a few people, will have the chance to get.

I apologize for not replying to any comments sooner. I wasn't able to check the forum after I left this morning. But I would like to thank everyone for posting their opinions and/or support!
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Post Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:06 am

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AcheTH wrote:After I've read all the post I realize one thing. You guys either don't really know how to boost pvp point or overlook how easy it is to fix it.

PvP boost is having one account lower its integral to the point of negative value then team up with the main account looking for bots.

To fix this simply don't allow integral to be lowered than 1500 thus PvP abuser can only get to 2500 with bots.

As I said to Kanger, this will be a good start. However, I can already think of a few loopholes. It will certainly make the work much harder for those with 2 devices to get to the top!

Also, I agree with you. I don't know all the mechanics of getting those high PvP points but I do know some. I haven't really had any experiences with this. I know there are players in other servers that do this but I barely saw them in my server (though there are a few that does it when no one is doing PvP).

Whatever is implemented, I will be fine with - as long as it makes this (much) fairer for everyone.
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Post Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:54 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

What people should understand especially those who spent real money to acquire their current position, their monsters, their hardwork, their frustration on coin respins, egg crackings and cooldown speeding will eventually be overturned by free-players w/ two devices..

Like what they mentioned, they will be given a chance to crack open eggs w/o spending a thing! These 100 coins may seem a little but it really isn't! Coins nowadays play a big factor in this game! And giving away free ones, will definitely disrupt the balance..

Who here played the first PvP championship and endlessly whined on dual-device users just for ABCs? Now, that ABCs can be acquired much more easily.. Coins play a much bigger factor given that:
1. You can crack eggs w/o the need to hunt, buy scrolls or level-up catalysts
2. If a player can get secure it weekly, he'd have access to 460GC w/c is a lot.. You need only 28 coins daily to do 2HR training
3. Saving up enough of this, can ensure a Vertedeath or Felicity to be bought w/in a month

To all those who've spent a lot of money failing to get what u want or even getting it by wasting more than 300$, are you really ok with this?

To sum up giving out rewards for PvP is really good.. Just don't give out something that will defintely impact the game's economy.. Why not just provide:

1. Rune Gems
2. ABCs
3. Essences (Wisdom/Life/Boss) w/ the same amount from the Dragonboat Festival
4. EXP Cards
5. EPIC Scrolls

Just not Gold Coins! Nor Legendary scrolls! Nor lots of Boss Essences..
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Post Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:55 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

Thank you, SwiftDeath!

That is a very helpful and informative reply.
Everyone needs to realize exactly what the impact of awarding 100 coins every week will be. It might not seem like it but it happens 4 times a month. Most likely, one person will get this top prize every time and he/she basically does not have to spend gold coins at all anymore. He/She will get more likely more gold coins than a high percentage of players would be able to spend in the game.

The reward needs to be decreased or changed to those outlined by SwiftDeath.
I urge everyone to try and understand where the others and I are coming from.
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Post Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:57 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

I would also like to update that Haypi are going to modify how 2v2 works in ladder.
I do hope that this solves the problem regarding players with more than 1 device.
We will know this once the update is here so I can't wait!

Again, thanks to all who replied and supports the cause!
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