2 Questions

Hello,

I have 2 questions here which I would really appreciate if any of you guys could answer:

Element advantage and STAB.
Say for example:
My felicity has mind bending and water bomb.
I'm fighting a draconius.
Would I be better of using mind bending because of the STAB or water bomb due to its element advantage?
Either one, could you please tell me by how much is one skill better than the other?
I know that as previously mentioned in viewtopic.php?f=640&t=19338&hilit=STAB, element advantage provide more damage however I tested this and it actually shows that mind bending does more damage than the water bomb.
Can someone please verify this?

Talent: Pressure
For example:
My monster has the talent Pressure.
Does enemy's monster get affected by the Talent (have their skills pp reduced by 2) even though they're under sleep/seduction?
Or are they only affected if their skills are executed?

Hello,

I have 2 questions here which I would really appreciate if any of you guys could answer:

Element advantage and STAB.
Say for example:
My felicity has mind bending and water bomb.
I'm fighting a draconius.
Would I be better of using mind bending because of the STAB or water bomb due to its element advantage?
Either one, could you please tell me by how much is one skill better than the other?
I know that as previously mentioned in viewtopic.php?f=640&t=19338&hilit=STAB, element advantage provide more damage however I tested this and it actually shows that mind bending does more damage than the water bomb.
Can someone please verify this?

Talent: Pressure
For example:
My monster has the talent Pressure.
Does enemy's monster get affected by the Talent (have their skills pp reduced by 2) even though they're under sleep/seduction?
Or are they only affected if their skills are executed?

Ofc element advantge does more damage , but it need to be on a mknster with same element , for example water bomb is stronger in cygness than felicity , so if u are facing dragoniues with facilty use mind bending it will do more damage than water bomb

for felicity against draco

mind binding has 90 base power, STAB boost is +50%
so against draco it will be 90 x 1.5 = 145 power

water bomb have also 90 base power. elemental advantage is +100%
so again draco it will be 90 x 2 = 180 power

conclusion:
it is 145 power mind bending with chance for extra dmg vs 180 power water bomb with healing chance.

if pegw or cygn uses water bomb against draco it'll be
90 x 1.5 x 2 = 270 power.

hope this answers your question.

Hello,

I have 2 questions here which I would really appreciate if any of you guys could answer:

Element advantage and STAB.
Say for example:
My felicity has mind bending and water bomb.
I'm fighting a draconius.
Would I be better of using mind bending because of the STAB or water bomb due to its element advantage?
Either one, could you please tell me by how much is one skill better than the other?
I know that as previously mentioned in viewtopic.php?f=640&t=19338&hilit=STAB, element advantage provide more damage however I tested this and it actually shows that mind bending does more damage than the water bomb.
Can someone please verify this?

Talent: Pressure
For example:
My monster has the talent Pressure.
Does enemy's monster get affected by the Talent (have their skills pp reduced by 2) even though they're under sleep/seduction?
Or are they only affected if their skills are executed?

I'm afraid I'm not able to answer your second question, so hopefully someone will clarify it for you soon.

Anyway, with regards to the first question, do keep in mind that the two skills (Poison Petals & Spirit Channel) discussed on the topic you have linked to are both magical skills, so the effects of MATK on both skills will be the same.

However in your case, Mind Bending is a magical skill (using MATK) while Water Bombs is a physical skill (using ATK). I've checked for the stats of a Level 50 S-grade Felicity and they are:

ATK: 108, vs.
MATK: 158.

As you can see, Mind Bending's power will therefore be boosted more greatly due to the MATK bonus, while Water Bombs depends on your ATK stat, which isn't that great. I don't know the exact calculations for stats and move power, but the great difference between ATK and MATK should probably be the reason why your Mind Bending ends up dealing more damage than Water Bombs in this case.

That said, I would recommend Water Bombs on Pewgway or Cygness instead. Not only do they get STAB, their ATK stats are also higher than Felicity's. Hope this helps!

[EDIT - Just in case I wasn't clear enough: Despite having an elemental advantage with Water Bombs, Felicity's high MATK on Mind Bending, coupled with STAB, should be enough to make its damage as high as/higher than Water Bombs even when used on a Draconius]

Thank you guys for the replies.

With that being said, if Both attack are magical and have the same power, I would deal more damage using the ones that has elemental advantage.
Am I correct?

I agree with Garouchi and was going to make same point that you need to look at the monster's attack and magical attack stats to accurately assess this.

And, yes, assuming that both attack and M attack stats are equal, the elemental advantage would yield higher damage than mere STAB bonus, everything else being equal.