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Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

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euanenzo

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Post Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:52 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

armiantz wrote:I still think this is a good idea but I just realized that Haypi beat us to it. Some common, uncommon and rare monsters do have some mean skills/talents that epics do not have.

You have common monsters that are immune to seduction, poison, burn and other debuffs. Cursie is a common monster but it has great mystery talents like detonate, synchronize and mummy. It also has curse which I have seen to be quite useful in 2v2. Meniss also has curse but it gets replaced by another skill at some point. Without cunning and other advanced skills meniss does not seem to be as epic. We all know how difficult it is to get skills these days.

Some rares naturally learn weather skills. Lambush is a non fire monster that can have celestial prayer (sally is an electric that has rain prayer).

Other Talents

underdog power - lupus, octobud
heatproof - lizzie
water therapy - twinkle (only non-water monster that gets healed with rain)
antidote - kernel
force III - funkis
weather lock - antee (I think this is the only monster that has this talent)

With these talents some of the " lesser monsters" can stand a chance with epics. Especially if the epics do not have adv skills. They may not be the best killers but they could be a good part of your defense strategy. If they would lower the cost of breeding commons people may start using them more. For example breeding an A/S common would be 15,000, uncommon 30,000, rare would be 45, and epic stays at 58,000.

The nice thing about HM is that they seem to listen to players' suggestions and it seems like they're really doing their best to have a balanced game. There are bugs, the game lags sometimes but that's just how it is.



Nicely put. Basing from your comment i can say Haypi just needs a little bit more to address the topic of this thread.
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euanenzo

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Post Mon May 13, 2013 6:14 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

I have seen a Branchy able to use Poison Stake, this is a good thing; so in total this monster is enabled to use 2 advanced skills.

My question is, has anyone seen other not-so-often used monster able to do the same thing? Or is this a testing kind-of-activity thing?
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junicobakura

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Post Mon May 13, 2013 3:12 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

euanenzo wrote:I have seen a Branchy able to use Poison Stake, this is a good thing; so in total this monster is enabled to use 2 advanced skills.

My question is, has anyone seen other not-so-often used monster able to do the same thing? Or is this a testing kind-of-activity thing?


Poison Stake is Intermediate
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euanenzo

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Post Tue May 14, 2013 3:06 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

junicobakura wrote:
euanenzo wrote:I have seen a Branchy able to use Poison Stake, this is a good thing; so in total this monster is enabled to use 2 advanced skills.

My question is, has anyone seen other not-so-often used monster able to do the same thing? Or is this a testing kind-of-activity thing?


Poison Stake is Intermediate


Damn. Is that so? What the f** does lethal powder have that made it advanced then?
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junicobakura

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Post Tue May 14, 2013 5:56 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

euanenzo wrote:
junicobakura wrote:
euanenzo wrote:I have seen a Branchy able to use Poison Stake, this is a good thing; so in total this monster is enabled to use 2 advanced skills.

My question is, has anyone seen other not-so-often used monster able to do the same thing? Or is this a testing kind-of-activity thing?


Poison Stake is Intermediate


Damn. Is that so? What the f** does lethal powder have that made it advanced then?


because the devs are f*cked up.
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armiantz

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Post Tue May 14, 2013 6:05 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

@junicobakura

lol but yeah i kinda agree with you on that one
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iBankky

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Post Thu May 16, 2013 2:52 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

euanenzo wrote:
Hanksta07 wrote:As a huge fan of Pokemon which is perfect in the arena of battle game play in my eyes. Why would anyone not want lower class monsters to learn advance moves. The system they use works! Haypi i believe was inspired by Pokemon. With that said i believe anyone with a brain can see that the move would make the game more complex instead of one dimensional and give players more choices


Nice comment! I was contemplating and thinking of the same for quite some time. Good thing you brought it up :lol: My favorite in pokemon, (this was up to pokemon silver and gold which was in my opinion the best versions) was the diversity of pokemons to use. I had Ampharos, Tyranitar, Rapidash, and Kingler as my favorite team. My Kingler had Hyper Beam, Vice grip and Guillotine among others.

Why am i reminiscing? I guess the main point I want to arrive at is that, some of the skills I mentioned for the game were considered, in relation to HM advanced skills; though usable by even the very basic monster in that game, in this instance a krabby-kingler.

Hyper Beam is a very cool skill to have since this is commonly used by what were considered in that game special monsters and to have a basic monster use it makes it more cooler to see. Also, back in the days when the anime showed how the pokemons use it; it was just utterly wicked! Now in HM, i have a crabby-crusty; it reminds me of the Kingler i really liked. I guess the reason i liked it so much was because it looked really cool when it evolves and as personal preference, the idea that you cannot just simply push it around just because its basic, a matter of decent training and a couple of very good skills it can compete with the much hyped and strong monsters in that game. Guillotine i think was a unique skill to a few pokemon and the main one who had this was Kingler; a percentage and instance skill that had a chance to instantly kill an enemy with one hit.

Now, how do i want to relate this? The personal preference i mentioned above is the same motivation i have with HM. Currently, i have a Crusty and Champ the reason being they are personal favorites. When i first played HM i was kind of expecting the same setup though i was still observing it during that time since i think this was the first game directly similar to pokemon in a mobile handheld. Then came the advanced skill limits. When it was apparent in HM that they intend to separate Epics from the lesser monsters i had to the option to get Pewgway but it just didn't interest me and was counting on the same motivation i said above. I would love to see my Crusty level up its slash into Iajutsu and Champ use Frenzy like an ape going wild if you'd imagine it. :lol:

So to end my long "article" already, i just wanted to share where i am coming from and challenge everyone to read between the lines. :mrgreen:


OMG, you remind me my super favorite game!!
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iBankky

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Post Thu May 16, 2013 4:19 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

I love the idea that rare monsters can have limited advance skills.

Rare can learn 2 adv skills
Uncommon can learn 1 adv skill
Common cannot learn any advance skill

These would be the best!!
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junicobakura

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Post Sat May 18, 2013 3:33 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

iBankky wrote:I love the idea that rare monsters can have limited advance skills.

Rare can learn 2 adv skills
Uncommon can learn 1 adv skill
Common cannot learn any advance skill

These would be the best!!


No. It would not be.
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iBankky

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Post Tue May 21, 2013 2:16 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

junicobakura wrote:
iBankky wrote:I love the idea that rare monsters can have limited advance skills.

Rare can learn 2 adv skills
Uncommon can learn 1 adv skill
Common cannot learn any advance skill

These would be the best!!


No. It would not be.


What about specific advance skills, for example Brunchy can only learn Photosynthesis and Lethal Power or Freezy can only learn Snowflake and subzero :_)
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