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Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

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euanenzo

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:16 pm

Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Combining the unique & advanced skills suggestion by junicobakura, i think its better to have both. I have noticed that so far, the ordinary monsters are slowly being left out and when you play PvP or Ladder its always the same monsters you see. If you developers want to limit the advanced skills to epic and legendary, might as well give the commoners and ordinary monsters some fighting chance and unique capabilities.

Why? Theres a reason why theres 150++ monsters in the game, if you limit all the godlike things to the epics and legendaries whats the sense of getting lesser monsters than the mentioned two if you will always be disadvantaged by their greatness? You will definitely always see similar and the same monsters each and every time during PvP and Ladder Tourney's.

I liked this game because i saw that there is depth and gameplay mechanics involved. Its not just simply putting high damage skills and high rate attributes and stats to win and be the best, there is what you call tactics; from the status buffs to the monster abilities. Don't ruin it just for the sake of easy pay-money or whatever your plan is. Think of the long term implication of people wanting to play your game because it is balanced and cool; and they would even pay because its so fun to do so for the sake of the playing the game itself. You will further sustain your business this way.

I believe you guys have a plan for this, limiting the best stuff for the better monsters; but also better be sure to let the players have a second thought why they should choose a common, uncommon, rare over the epics and even legendaries. Let them have a reason why they should mix up their line up by using almost all monsters in the game. Do this and i think you will have a completely awesome game.

I am very optimistic that you HAYPI PEOPLE will be able to read this and if i am fortunate even get a reply from you. Cheers!
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MasterWill

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:20 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Very good posting but i think it will be just ignored like some of our
suggestions and that is not ilegal and they just have their rights to do what
they want. So anything but to hope is all you can do.
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junicobakura

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:25 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Now , that's what I'm talkin' about,
To All who support this, we just need to send this thread's link to the Staffs of this forums via Private Message, then they will send this to the Devs.
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Kaloth

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:30 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

The lesser monsters aren't discarded. This is a natural progression of any game. As you progress through the game you can stronger monsters. If the lesser monsters could learn all the abilites and were almost as powerful as the new monsters there would be no motivation to get epic monsters.

I'm personally statisfied with the progression and the way it's set up. What they need to do is add levels where only rare monsters or lower can go. Or add rare only tournments. That would allow those who haven't gotten epics to compete and the rare monsters wouldn't become trash for veteran players.
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junicobakura

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:50 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Kaloth wrote:The lesser monsters aren't discarded. This is a natural progression of any game. As you progress through the game you can stronger monsters. If the lesser monsters could learn all the abilites and were almost as powerful as the new monsters there would be no motivation to get epic monsters.

I'm personally statisfied with the progression and the way it's set up. What they need to do is add levels where only rare monsters or lower can go. Or add rare only tournments. That would allow those who haven't gotten epics to compete and the rare monsters wouldn't become trash for veteran players.


Talking About Lower Monsters are not Discarded but constantly talked about Rares and disregarded the Commons and Uncommons, WOW!! Just WOW!!

Plus, if they are to learn what epics and legendary can, they woudn't be that strong, cause if you can compare the stat of a common with an epic, you'd see a huge difference,

Also, most of the epics get better mystery talents, if you haven't noticed at all.

And why would it demotivate you from getting Epics? Branchy is a Rare mon but can learn Photosynthesis which is an Advanced move, did it stopped everybody from getting a Smiter?
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Kaloth

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:53 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

junicobakura wrote:Talking About Lower Monsters are not Discarded but constantly talked about Rares and disregarded the Commons and Uncommons, WOW!! Just WOW!!

Plus, if they are to learn what epics and legendary can, they woudn't be that strong, cause if you can compare the stat of a common with an epic, you'd see a huge difference,

Also, most of the epics get better mystery talents, if you haven't noticed at all.

And why would it demotivate you from getting Epics? Branchy is a Rare mon but can learn Photosynthesis which is an Advanced move, did it stopped everybody from getting a Smiter?


So as you say the epic monsters have better stats and better mystery talents. Why do you care if common and uncommon monsters can learn those advanced skills they still won't be able to compete with them? If anything, the way it stands today it helps players from accidently giving an advanced skill to an uncommon or common monster.
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junicobakura

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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:06 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Kaloth wrote:
junicobakura wrote:Talking About Lower Monsters are not Discarded but constantly talked about Rares and disregarded the Commons and Uncommons, WOW!! Just WOW!!

Plus, if they are to learn what epics and legendary can, they woudn't be that strong, cause if you can compare the stat of a common with an epic, you'd see a huge difference,

Also, most of the epics get better mystery talents, if you haven't noticed at all.

And why would it demotivate you from getting Epics? Branchy is a Rare mon but can learn Photosynthesis which is an Advanced move, did it stopped everybody from getting a Smiter?


So as you say the epic monsters have better stats and better mystery talents. Why do you care if common and uncommon monsters can learn those advanced skills they still won't be able to compete with them? If anything, the way it stands today it helps players from accidently giving an advanced skill to an uncommon or common monster.


Who said that even if the commons and uncommons can learn advanced but due to their stats and selection of talents they cannot compete with the epics? Huh? Uhm? That's right, no one said anything about that!
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Post Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:12 pm

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Kaloth wrote:
junicobakura wrote:Talking About Lower Monsters are not Discarded but constantly talked about Rares and disregarded the Commons and Uncommons, WOW!! Just WOW!!

Plus, if they are to learn what epics and legendary can, they woudn't be that strong, cause if you can compare the stat of a common with an epic, you'd see a huge difference,

Also, most of the epics get better mystery talents, if you haven't noticed at all.

And why would it demotivate you from getting Epics? Branchy is a Rare mon but can learn Photosynthesis which is an Advanced move, did it stopped everybody from getting a Smiter?


So as you say the epic monsters have better stats and better mystery talents. Why do you care if common and uncommon monsters can learn those advanced skills they still won't be able to compete with them? If anything, the way it stands today it helps players from accidently giving an advanced skill to an uncommon or common monster.



I have to disagree giving the lower monsters the ability to learn any skill in their prospective element would definately make them more relevant. the only difference between rare epic legendary should be stats. Me personally i dont wanna use what everyone else uses i wanna be orginal and creative. Some common monsters have decent base stats i would work with, but just like the skill power that would make them competative. They dont nessecarly need to be better than the rare or epic of the same element, just competative
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euanenzo

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Post Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:58 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

The general debate here should be the reason why there is 130+ to 150++ monsters in the game. The concern is, as i said, make use of that. If some people here have commented that there is progression, i am all for it, this is a reminder that they should not forget to maintain the balance. Other monsters should not serve just as ingredients for higher monster recipes. It defeats the purpose, and i personally would want to have a wider range of monsters to choose from when making my team to compete in pvps and tourneys; it, as others have said, further ups the level of the game because you can personalise it based on your own style and liking.
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Post Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:11 am

Re: Don't Discard the Lesser Monsters (skills and ability-wise)

Really, MasterWill?
Everyone just posted to support the idea but you have to post JUST to bad mouth the company again? As I said before, stop playing if you really can't stand it.
It's better to just support proposed ideas than to try and disappoint the whole community yet again.

But regarding this:
This is an excellent idea!
We really do need more use for the weaker monsters. :)
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