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Christanos

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Post Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:32 am

Sub Stealing Guide

SUB STEALING GUIDE:
by Christanos s75

By scouting a sub i want to steal a minute apart. I take the resource amounts and get the difference to find out what level resources the sub has for each rescource (i.e.: wood, stone, lumber, crop)   

For example: say a scouting report shows the following:

Wood: 366334
Stone: 151843
  Iron:  444214
  Crop: 145950

Scout it one minute after and it shows the following:

Wood: 366445
Stone: 151954
  Iron:  444325
  Crop: 146120

Subtract the numbers for each resource and compare them to the charts below:
Ex:
Wood: 366445- 366234 = 111
 
That would be all lvl 15 upgraded resources with a lvl 6 technolgy for wood

Please note i did the calculations for resource upgrades 13,14,15 only and figured if it was below that no one would want to steal that sub in the first place. However, i showed the example on how to figure it out at the bottom... 
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Lvl 15 Resources
Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 10 tech:
127.95/minute any resource
170.66/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 9 tech:
123.68/minute any resource
162.12/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 8 tech:
119.42/minute any resource
153.59/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 7 tech: 115.15/minute any resource
145.06/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 6 tech: 110.89/minute any resource
136.52/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 5 tech:
106.62/minute any resource
127.99/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 4 tech:
102.36/minute any resource
119.46/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 3 tech:
98.09/minute any resource
110.92/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 2 tech:
93.83/minute any resource
102.39/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 1 tech:
89.56/minute any resource
93.86 /minute Crop resource only

Lvl 15 upgrade with lvl 0 tech:
85.3/minute any resource
85.3/minute Crop resource only
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Lvl 14 Resources
Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 10 tech:
107.85/minute any resource
143.80/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 9 tech:
104.25/minute any resource
136.61/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 8 tech:
100.66/minute any resource
129.42/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 7 tech: 
97.06/minute any resource
122.23/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 6 tech: 
93.47/minute any resource
115.04/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 5 tech:
89.87/minute any resource
107.89/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 4 tech:
86.28/minute any resource
100.66/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 3 tech:
82.68/minute any resource
93.47/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 2 tech:
79.09/minute any resource
86.28/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 1 tech:
75.49/minute any resource
79.09/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 14 upgrade with lvl 0 tech:
71.9/minute any resource
71.9/minute Crop resource only
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Lvl 13 Resources
Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 10 tech:
89.1/minute any resource
118.80/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 9 tech:
86.13/minute any resource
112.86/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 8 tech:
83.16/minute any resource
106.92/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 7 tech: 80.19/minute any resource
100.98/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 6 tech: 77.22/minute any resource
95.04/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 5 tech:
74.25/minute any resource
89.1/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 4 tech:
71.28/minute any resource
83.16/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 3 tech:
68.31/minute any resource
77.22/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 2 tech:
65.34/minute any resource
71.28/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 1 tech:
62.37/minute any resource
65.34/minute Crop resource only

Lvl 13 upgrade with lvl 0 tech:
59.4/minute any resource
59.4/minute Crop resource only
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Other impotant information about cities:

Rescource outputs/hr: times by 4     resource fields
Lvl 20: 2695
Lvl 19: 2400
Lvl 18: 2080
Lvl 17: 1820
Lvl 16: 1500
Lvl 15: 1280
Lvl 14: 1079
Lvl 13:  891
Lvl 12: 712
Lvl 11: 560
Lvl 10: 420
Lvl 9: 319
Lvl 8: 230
Lvl 7: 168
Lvl 6: 125
Lvl 5: 85
Lvl 4: 59
Lvl 3: 42
Lvl 2: 26
Lvl 1: 15
Lvl 0: 6

Cranny Levels:
Lvl 20: 100000
Lvl 19: 77500
Lvl 18: 62500
Lvl 17: 47500
Lvl 16: 37500
Lvl 15: 29500
Lvl 14: 22875
Lvl 13: 17700
Lvl 12: 13650
Lvl 11: 10425
Lvl 10: 8025
Lvl 9: 6150
Lvl 8: 4725
Lvl 7: 3675
Lvl 6: 2775
Lvl 5: 2175
Lvl 4: 1650
Lvl 3: 1275
Lvl 2: 975
Lvl 1: 750
Lvl 0: 0

Warehouse levels:
Lvl 20: 449300
Lvl 19: 369300
Lvl 18: 302900
Lvl 17: 247800  
Lvl 16: 202100
Lvl 15: 164200
Lvl 14: 132900
Lvl 13: 107000
Lvl 12: 85600
Lvl 11: 68000
Lvl 10: 53600
Lvl 9: 41800
Lvl 8: 32200
Lvl 7: 24400
Lvl 6: 18100
Lvl 5: 13100
Lvl 4: 9100
Lvl 3: 6000
Lvl 2: 3700
Lvl 1: 2000
Lvl 0: 800

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How i did the math: ex-lvl 10 resources
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Lvl10:             420/hr or 7/minute
                         x  4 resource fields
                  ___________________
                  1680/hr or 28/minute
 
Hrs.: (.05 x tech lvl 7=.35x1680=588)
Min.: (.05 x tech lvl 7=.35x28= 9.8)

^^^Do that for each tech level and add it to the base resource amount per hour or minute (i just did tech lvl 7 as an example)

***note: .10 is used for crop
             .05 is used for stone, iron,    
                   wood

Lvl 10 tech + 840/hr or 15/minute
Lvl 9 tech + 756/hr or 12.6/minute
Lvl8 tech + 672/hr or 11.2/minute
Lvl7 tech + 588/hr or 9.8/minute
Lvl6 tech + 504/hr or 8.4/minute
Lvl5 tech  ......  same concept just 
                     Continue it


In Addition:
This is what i do when the target sub has level ten scouting. Adapt it to your army choice and break cranny level.
    I use the ten minutes that hk gives you when you send attacks that get stacked backed to back to gauge this. I have lvl 10 break cranny and by sending 16000-20000 cav back to back and the time is exactly 10 minutes between war reports. Then just divide the total resources on the last war report by 10 to get per minute. Works like a charm. Also any walls should be cleared prior to doing that otherwise it messes with the perfect round number of ten minutes...lol
Last edited by Christanos on Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:36 am

Re: Sub Stealing Guide

That really good. Thanks
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Post Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:11 am

Re: Sub Stealing Guide

Hey you're welcome. Glad you liked it :D
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That is good. Well done.
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Post Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:35 pm

Re: Sub Stealing Guide

Considering most people with maxed subs also have maxed scout this becomes less important (though very good at the start of a server). I would recommend a guide where you hit a sub then wait some time andhit again. The amount of resources you get is essentially the same as the resources from scouting report so that number can be put into your table
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good point muku
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Re: Sub Stealing Guide

Yeah. But it's still a nice guide.
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Post Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:22 am

Re: Sub Stealing Guide

I didn't say it wasn't a nice guideI didn't say it was not a good guide :shock:

Just said to add the thing about hitting them so the guide becomes more applicable to more people :D
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Post Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:52 am

Re: Sub Stealing Guide

I actually use the ten minutes that hk gives you when you send attacks that get stacked backed to back to gauge this. I have lvl 10 break cranny and by sending 16000-20000 cav back to back the time is exactly 10 minutes between war reports. Then just divide the total resources on the last war report by 10 to get per minute. Works like a charm.
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Post Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:03 am

Re: Sub Stealing Guide

Thanks muku ill add a note at the bottom.
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