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Dreamwizrd

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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:45 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

How is my logic askew?
what wrong with my calculations?

1k res an hour from 4 mines, average, gives a total of 4k res from all crop/iron/stone/wood.

Yes 1X4 is 4 :)

average obviously.

Taking market average as 0.5 seems fair no?

Well lets take 0.25

where say you produce 1k/1k/1k/1k
(4k total)
2 months is 60 days.

60 days is
1440 hours
4000X1440=5760000
which is 5.76 million resources gathered over 2 months


no?


market price 0.25

5.76 millionX0.25=1440000
which is still 1.4 million money.

which isnt exactly 2 million which you said it the most you can sell 2 crowns for. as 1 million is the most for 1.


But my personal tactics is the whole go back on aggreements.

This means if you sent him a letter telling him that you will sell him 1 crown for $500k he will see that down the line it is in his best interests to buy it.


If i was in his position if he did not sell me the crown immediatly i would just farm him and get the resources specified above^^^

If so then i would farm him a few days later getting nearly twice the resources 2 months later.

Sure, no ones gonna need that crown for two months or more


Becuase we are talking about crowns which apparently you wont need for 2 months...

Thats why i took all my calculations to be for 2 months. As your not going to see any benifit of the crowns for 2 months. So all calculations should be for 2 months.

No?
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Post Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:56 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

Nathan05 wrote:wow thats nice i have seen people get like 2/3 nuggets in a row though

No when life gives u lemons give it back and ask for chocolate
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Post Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:05 am

Re: Gold chest contents

I can't believe you're still arguing this, bro!

Right off the bat, I will tell you there are sooo many variables you're not accounting for here.....one, I would imagine you'd be smart enough to try and protect your resources, or at least try and learn how to protect them if someone was really going to try and farm you for EVERY resource you could humanly produce in 2 months lol not to mention how far fetched that is anyway! Don't forget cranny protection as well, though I guess you wouldn't expect to upgrade it at all since all the res you have is being mercilessly farmed by this guy who you graciously offered a cheap crown to.

Sorry I have to pause for a few minutes to laugh hysterically at this convo.....

Kk, now let's consider why in the world this dude would waste his time farming someone like you, who can only produce 4k res/hour! That's like what he could easily make simply by taking ONE lv9 oasis.

But the really skewed part of your logic (which I suppose doesn't surprise me considering your naturally negative outlook on things) is the fact that you assume someone would want to farm you for being nice to them. What in the world would make you look a gift horse in the eye and punish someone for offering to sell you a cheap crown? That logic is bogus, bro.....I find it impossible to believe that doing that would invoke someones anger to the point that they would go out of their way to ensure you would never be able to play the game on that server again!

Seriously, bro! It seems you have mastered arithmetic, maybe next you should work on people skills and diplomacy or something....

P.S.

I am top 5 on many servers, I have 2 lv19 Accts and I can honestly say I have never farmed anyone, nor have I ever threatened to do so. What happened in your life to make you automatically assume the worst from people? What even put this idea in your head?

I was simply offering my sage advice born from experience, if you don't want to heed it, it's your prerogative. I wish you all the luck in the game you can get, cause with your views on how the game Is played, you are seriously going to need it......and I will reiterate my original sentiments.....there is absolutely NO WAY that you will ever convince me, or anyone else who understands this game that 2 crowns for 20 coins is not a better deal than 400k res for 20 coins!

Simply preposterous.

Feel free to respond to this.....I am resting my case and will not discuss this any further.
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Post Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:39 am

Re: Gold chest contents

lol id rather have the crowns for sure :)
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Post Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:44 am

Re: Gold chest contents

Well back on topic I would like to ask people to post what they get from gold chests so that we can see what the liklihood of each treasure is
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Post Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:09 am

Re: Gold chest contents

whats your fortune u ppl are farming gold and silver treasure boxes? i put all my points into speed i have a ring for fortune but havent gotten a box BOO!! lol
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Nathan05

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Post Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:58 am

Re: Gold chest contents

Marc91385 wrote:whats your fortune u ppl are farming gold and silver treasure boxes? i put all my points into speed i have a ring for fortune but havent gotten a box BOO!! lol


hey dude this thread is merely for discussing the comtents of chests

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9031
^^go here for discussion about how to get chests
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Dreamwizrd

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Post Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:58 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

Back off topic again


Don't forget cranny protection as well


your cranny is a constant, so its 5.7 million, -200

which is still 5.7 million.

so you ignore the cranny

as 200 is nothing next to 5.7 million.

think abou it say you have 1k cranny space.

you produce 1k an hour of each res.

farms you the first hour, gets nothing, waits an hour gets 1k

But that 1k that he did not get is still there in the cranny.

So you ignore the cranny capacity.




EVERY resource you could humanly produce in 2 months lol not to mention how far fetched that is anyway


Is it really that weird to want to farm 5.7 million resources in 2 months.

And we are talking about 1 player here,

normally im farming everyone in 10 minutes inf time.

If you get 1k of each resource of each player. your getting like loads of res.

I dont know exact numbers, but there has to be 50 players in a 10 minute range.

50X24X1000=1.2 million

thats how many of each resource you get from 50 players producing 1k each our.

Not bad for a days work of farming no?

Or is getting those resources a bad idea?

lol not to mention how far fetched that is anyway!


yerr they are numbers i plucked out of mid air to represent what im trying to say.

I farm everyone no matter their lv or troop count.

I have taken out people 3 lvs higher than me.
Then you have like tonnes of resources to take.

You will easily get more resources than you use.

its only later on when you dont attack anyone new who is any good. without careful planning.


Kk, now let's consider why in the world this dude would waste his time farming someone like you, who can only produce 4k res/hour! That's like what he could easily make simply by taking ONE lv9 oasis.


yes you get 4k from an oasis, then you get 4k from 1 farming run, then 4k from another, then 4k from another, then about 4k from more farming, and another 4k from farming then you take 50k from a lv1 fort, then another 50k from another lv1 fort.

then you go farming ha_a players, get 1.6 k a run from 2 of them.

you farm what easily 30 ha_a players.

then 4k from your mines which lasts about an hour of resource production.


Hmm... that 4k from that oasis seems a bit small now.


The more people you clear the more you have to farm.





Back to my point. if i just mail him he will search my name, see im right close, dont bother with the crowns and turn me into a farm.

And im not being nice to him, as he still has to fork out 500k.

its more advertising by mail and making your presence known.

As while im rank 0 im a little less obvious.


You should be near me in a new world and try not using 100s of coins believe it.


that doing that would invoke someones anger to the point that they would go out of their way to ensure you would never be able to play the game on that server again!



Is that such a bad thing?

If you have the troops and the tech and the items, but what you dont have is resources, isnt your main priority to get those resources?

this whole game revolves around resources. and time.
as you cant speed up time without spending coins.

Or get resources other than spending coins or farming.

Well if you spend coins thats your money your using, so the only other option is farm.

Surely you farm people beleive it?

If not maybe you should try it.

And if you ever want more resources farm bigger better players.

And if they mail you saying please stop farming me, make sure you farm them the most.

and if they send you a mail saying i want to be your friend becuase you cleared them attack them more.

If they mail you saying they want to be your friend when they are near you, you farm them. as if they have mailed you they are active.

If they are active they have built up their village, so you will get more resources from them.

And if they fight back farm them more as you need them to give up so you dont have to lose a few inf to traps and they will be spending res on traps that you wont get.


maybe next you should work on people skills and diplomacy or something....



I choose my friends well, but i make sure i choose my enemies better.

i look at the map and say who shouldnt i attack and who cant i attack, not who should i attack.

if they are in a good alliance, join the alliance, become vice, kick out the members near you and farm them, if they join an new alliance claim them as refugees and keep farming them.

or you could just use 1000s of coins and spend $1000s.

in which case you will be a who should i attack kind of person.



I am top 5 on many servers, I have 2 lv19 Accts and I can honestly say I have never farmed anyone, nor have I ever threatened to do so. What happened in your life to make you automatically assume the worst from people? What even put this idea in your head?


top 5, lv19

hmm, i see you are much more of a spend use 1000s of coins,

who should i attack and how much pres can he give me.


This is becuase i can be top 5 on a server and never have to spend any money on coins at all.

If you can do that and not use any more than free coins. Then come to me and say you have never farmed anyone i will take on board any tips you have.

there is absolutely NO WAY that you will ever convince me, or anyone else who understands this game that 2 crowns for 20 coins is not a better deal than 400k res for 20 coins!


I can make more money by buying 20k res and selling it in small batches early on in the game than selling crowns for maximun price.

But with resources you dont just have to get money where as with crowns you have to get money, or keep them and do not benifit from them.

Now i see you are the kind of player who would save 200 coins by buying a crown from the market. Meaning that you spend alot of money getting coins.

Which is why you will never see my point.

Saving 200 coins means much more for you than me, as i will never have more than 100 coins.

spending 200 coins is out of the question for me.

If you say just get a job.

I have a job, and i could spend money on this game, but there is no way im spending 1000s on this game, so i see no point in spending 100s and going no where with those coins.

Just getting free apps works alright.
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Post Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:11 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

46,000 is actually not a very good gold chest, for 10 coins you could upgrade your cropland or buy treasure.

If you had just sold the chest npc you would have earned 40,000 and kept the coins. What basically just happened was you spent ten coins tp gain 6,000 dollars.

Im personally waiting to see if we can sell them at market for a higher price than npc.
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Dreamwizrd

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Post Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:46 pm

Re: Gold chest contents

Gold chests aren't really that good at all.

Their npc value is 40k
you can buy either a nugget and a gen for that.
You get around 50k for an open. But you lose 10 coins.
10 coins = 20k

with the 40+ resources from 10 coins sold at Market that is more than a medal.

So you only gain from a scepter or crown. Which is only for higher lvs. Or selling.
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