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Rendbi

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Post Tue May 07, 2013 4:44 pm

Reduce Power of Darkness PP

In my opinion, the PP of this skill should be reduced to 1 for the following reason:
1) It does not stack when casts twice.
2) It is too overpowered to be able to be casted more than once.
3) There are very few scenarios where monsters are able to casts it more than once.

PS: This is also because I was thinking to get Swindle to Counter the Overpowered POD to make things interesting.
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Post Tue May 07, 2013 6:51 pm

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

I don't agree with this.
Although you can only have 1 stats upgrades from PoD, you may cast it after your monster lowers one of your stats, thereby making the stat 1 stage higher again.

I don't think there is any problem with Power of Darkness at the moment. If you plan on using your monster for all the battles in a map, you might need all those PP for Power of Darkness.

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Post Tue May 07, 2013 11:13 pm

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

I agree with Lexoph, if you encounter a debuff, such as a Spamming Stabbey that does war cry constantly, I would be nice to re buff with pod.

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Post Wed May 08, 2013 1:22 am

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

Thanks Fellas!

Previously, I was thinking of how Swindle can be used to Counter the Overpowered POD to make things more interesting.
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Post Wed May 08, 2013 2:21 am

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

If my assessment is correct.. Once PoD has been cast, it will not add buff again regardless if you've been de-buffed previously..

PoD-casted S Vertedeath deals about 40-45% HP against another PoD-casted S Vertedeath using Cunning.. As i've experienced, after re-casting PoD after getting hit by Cunning, the damage dealt was the same to a single-casted PoD..
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Post Wed May 08, 2013 2:37 am

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

SwiftDeath_599 wrote:If my assessment is correct.. Once PoD has been cast, it will not add buff again regardless if you've been de-buffed previously..

PoD-casted S Vertedeath deals about 40-45% HP against another PoD-casted S Vertedeath using Cunning.. As i've experienced, after re-casting PoD after getting hit by Cunning, the damage dealt was the same to a single-casted PoD..


If this is true, then might as well as just make it 1 PP, for the same reason of Swindle being more useful on a faster mon.

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Post Wed May 08, 2013 9:53 am

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

SwiftDeath_599 wrote:If my assessment is correct.. Once PoD has been cast, it will not add buff again regardless if you've been de-buffed previously..

PoD-casted S Vertedeath deals about 40-45% HP against another PoD-casted S Vertedeath using Cunning.. As i've experienced, after re-casting PoD after getting hit by Cunning, the damage dealt was the same to a single-casted PoD..

Cunning lowers the MDEF significantly. I believe it's like 2 stages? Therefore, PoD would only be able to increase that once.
I have tested it out myself numerous times before and just now and it can actually be used to increase your monsters' stats to 1 stage higher than what they were before it was first casted (as far as I know).
I know that it works for War Cries as well as I hated facing those in Sealed Space Expert and have used PoD numerous times to remove the buff.
It seems to be more complicated than what I thought but I am pretty sure it can cancel de-buffs inflicted after the first PoD - providing they are just 1 stage de-buffs..
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Post Wed May 08, 2013 1:55 pm

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

Lol POD is not power full its only a buffs hahaha think about before u post my frend if they read this they will laugh you its not a skill to defeat monster
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Post Wed May 08, 2013 2:32 pm

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

kate28 wrote:Lol POD is not power full its only a buffs hahaha think about before u post my frend if they read this they will laugh you its not a skill to defeat monster



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Post Wed May 08, 2013 4:27 pm

Re: Reduce Power of Darkness PP

Just had this tested on 2v2 and it didnt cancel debuff from Cunning, scenario as follows:

1. Meniss w/ Magic Force 2 casts Polish
2. Vertedeath casts PoD
3. Meniss casts Cunning
4. Vertedeath is hit HP: 102/199
5. Meniss uses Sneak Attack on my team mate until I fully recover my HP w/ Soak
6. Vertedeath casts PoD HP: 199/199
7. Meniss casts Cunning
8. Vertedeath is hit HP: 34/199

Chaotic Swamp against Stabbey:

1. Vertedeath casts PoD
2. Stabbey uses War Cry
3. Vertedeath uses Shadow Storm
4. Stabbey is hit HP: 107/163
5. Vertedeath uses PoD (debuff on item #2 ahould be cancelled but it wasnt)
6. Stabbey uses Serenade
7. Vertedeath uses Shadow Storm
8. Stabbey is hit HP: 53/163 (almost same damage dealt from item#4 regardless of twice used PoD)
9. Stabbey uses Serenade
10. Vertedeath casts PoD (just to make sure)
11. Stabbey uses War Cry
12. Vertedeath uses Shadow Storm
13. Stabbey is hit HP: 13/163 (reduced damage again)

Based on my observation.. PoD won't cancel any stat debuff as long as it has been casted..

Just maybe, there is an internal logic/flagging during every fight to check whether or not PoD has been casted by each participating monster.. Once flagged, PoD's stat boost won't be tiggered again.. Whether a stat debuff has been used against the PoD caster or not..
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