Cant get skelly

Why should using pots be treated as cheating when it is part of the game? Strategically and defensively this is valid and sound. Especially that there are rampant point and shoot OELs in the game, i personally feel i am just utilizing game contents effectively.

I don't think you are being robbed or cheated since they can also equip this if they want to. Also, if this is one of the only ways for someone not having the resources to get paid monsters in order to move on or at least in this instance win in pvp in the game why would we restrict and penalize ourselves because we are treating it cheating as such?

I think its more of the norm, dependent also per server; maybe? I think this should not be a standard.

Because using potions shows that you can't win unless you use 6 monsters.
And please tell me how 4 vs 6 is fair.

'Just mentioned that already Koen, you have the option to make your monsters "6" also just use potion as well. Can the "Pots user" complain? He is using it, why shouldn't you? And exactly, that's reason why you use them 'cause you will not win against these players as mentioned above.

Think of it this way, you will win when you use potions and your opponent doesn't. Though you will lose anyway if they did. so there's no really unfairness there you just went back to the original scenario of not using such items.

I think the stigma is coming from the disgraceful image of using Pots and the unconventional way of such tactics in this game as may be perceived by an individual; though I must insist that this is based on self preference alone of the player, this is not absolute. And therefore nobody unless the rules of the game state it so it is just branded by those who think that it is cheating. And since its part of the game unless someone justifies and bring it upfront, negative will be the notion about such topic. Again, from how I see it, there's nothing wrong here.

Too much words.

[Koenaj]

'Just mentioned that already Koen, you have the option to make your monsters "6" also just use potion as well. Can the "Pots user" complain? He is using it, why shouldn't you? And exactly, that's reason why you use them 'cause you will not win against these players as mentioned above.

Think of it this way, you will win when you use potions and your opponent doesn't. Though you will lose anyway if they did. so there's no really unfairness there you just went back to the original scenario of not using such items.

I think the stigma is coming from the disgraceful image of using Pots and the unconventional way of such tactics in this game as may be perceived by an individual; though I must insist that this is based on self preference alone of the player, this is not absolute. And therefore nobody unless the rules of the game state it so it is just branded by those who think that it is cheating. And since its part of the game unless someone justifies and bring it upfront, negative will be the notion about such topic. Again, from how I see it, there's nothing wrong here.

Too much words.

Easy answer: I'm not that low.

'Just mentioned that already Koen, you have the option to make your monsters "6" also just use potion as well. Can the "Pots user" complain? He is using it, why shouldn't you? And exactly, that's reason why you use them 'cause you will not win against these players as mentioned above.

Think of it this way, you will win when you use potions and your opponent doesn't. Though you will lose anyway if they did. so there's no really unfairness there you just went back to the original scenario of not using such items.

I think the stigma is coming from the disgraceful image of using Pots and the unconventional way of such tactics in this game as may be perceived by an individual; though I must insist that this is based on self preference alone of the player, this is not absolute. And therefore nobody unless the rules of the game state it so it is just branded by those who think that it is cheating. And since its part of the game unless someone justifies and bring it upfront, negative will be the notion about such topic. Again, from how I see it, there's nothing wrong here.

Too much words.

Easy answer: I'm not that low.

Exactly.

So does this mean, you know that it is not cheating? You are the one who just says that it is?

[Koenaj]

Exactly.

So does this mean, you know that it is not cheating? You are the one who just says that it is?

Pretty sure most actives on this forum will agree with me.

Exactly.

So does this mean, you know that it is not cheating? You are the one who just says that it is?

Pretty sure most actives on this forum will agree with me.

So you rely on other people to make your argument valid?
Just because they're active does not mean that their opinions are right.

[Koenaj]

So you rely on other people to make your argument valid?
Just because they're active does not mean that their opinions are right.

Oh this seems to be going the correct way.
When did I say that my opinion is right? It's called an opinion for a reason.

Exactly.

So does this mean, you know that it is not cheating? You are the one who just says that it is?

Pretty sure most actives on this forum will agree with me.

Exactly.

Pretty much, collectively they may or may not agree with you. and collectively they may and may not agree with this reasoning, but at the end of the day, we ask, is it cheating? I bet you, at some point we can agree that it isnt.

So you rely on other people to make your argument valid?
Just because they're active does not mean that their opinions are right.

Oh this seems to be going the correct way.
When did I say that my opinion is right? It's called an opinion for a reason.

Guys, lets not get on the wrong track here. we are not fighting or arguing, this is just a healthy conversation sharing insights okay?

Just expressing thoughts about the matter, no flames here.

[Koenaj]

Exactly.

Pretty much, collectively they may or may not agree with you. and collectively they may and may not agree with this reasoning, but at the end of the day, we ask, is it cheating? I bet you, at some point we can agree that it isnt.

If you're going to give me some smartypants definition of ''cheating'', no then it's not. But it's not fair either, which, in my eyes, is equal to cheating.

Exactly.

Pretty much, collectively they may or may not agree with you. and collectively they may and may not agree with this reasoning, but at the end of the day, we ask, is it cheating? I bet you, at some point we can agree that it isnt.

If you're going to give me some smartypants definition of ''cheating'', no then it's not. But it's not fair either, which, in my eyes, is equal to cheating.

Why is it not fair Koen, when you can also use pots? there is no one prohibiting you to do so but yourself? it is not smartypants reasoning because you just said, this is by "your eyes", meaning you just don't want to accept it. What I am just asking you is, in general, is it really cheating?