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Lord.Rex

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:48 pm

Debate time!

Fenrir + flight versus 2 Cerberus

Turn 1 fenrir + flight use pod, cerb uses meteor and wild fire

Turn 2 fenrir uses aurora flight uses massive boulder, aurora 1 hits cerb, boulder brings other cerb to 50ish health.


I'm sorry but there is no reason an ice move (pod or not) should 1 hit a cerb and massive boulder can't, even without a rock type using it. I say fenrir should get hit with the nerf bat so hard it's mother doesn't even recognize it cause when crap like that happens it really annoys me.
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Krister_o

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:00 pm

Re: Debate time!

Lord.Rex wrote:Fenrir + flight versus 2 Cerberus

Turn 1 fenrir + flight use pod, cerb uses meteor and wild fire

Turn 2 fenrir uses aurora flight uses massive boulder, aurora 1 hits cerb, boulder brings other cerb to 50ish health.


I'm sorry but there is no reason an ice move (pod or not) should 1 hit a cerb and massive boulder can't, even without a rock type using it. I say fenrir should get hit with the nerf bat so hard it's mother doesn't even recognize it cause when crap like that happens it really annoys me.

Well fenrir has high matk right? And Cerberus has low mdef ? I think, not since I don't have either one. But also the flight only did half damage ? my friends scythe one shots the Cerberus' in my server even without pod?
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Lord.Rex

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:05 pm

Re: Debate time!

I had the magic helmet thing on my cerb, it increases mdef and that's the reason I have it. As for the scythe thing I've survived massive boulder from brawny, don't know about scythe. Still though there's no reason I should have been one hot by a weaker element
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MasterWill

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:07 pm

Re: Debate time!

Scythe OHKO Cerbe without pod or/and sand storm?
So is it boulder ( 1-3+?) or massive boulder ( 1-3+?) ?
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Lord.Rex

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:09 pm

Re: Debate time!

MasterWill wrote:Scythe OHKO Cerbe without pod or/and sand storm?
So is it boulder ( 1-3+?) or massive boulder ( 1-3+?) ?

That reminds me the aurora was NOT upgraded. Just plain old ice power.
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Krister_o

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:10 pm

Re: Debate time!

Lord.Rex wrote:
MasterWill wrote:Scythe OHKO Cerbe without pod or/and sand storm?
So is it boulder ( 1-3+?) or massive boulder ( 1-3+?) ?

That reminds me the aurora was NOT upgraded. Just plain old ice power.

Critical ? Or was blizzard out ? Plus I see what you mean very cheap, but I think fenrir just has high matk
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Lord.Rex

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:15 pm

Re: Debate time!

Krister_o wrote:
Lord.Rex wrote:
MasterWill wrote:Scythe OHKO Cerbe without pod or/and sand storm?
So is it boulder ( 1-3+?) or massive boulder ( 1-3+?) ?

That reminds me the aurora was NOT upgraded. Just plain old ice power.

Critical ? Or was blizzard out ? Plus I see what you mean very cheap, but I think fenrir just has high matk


No and no. Regular hit no weather.
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MasterWill

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:17 pm

Re: Debate time!

If fenrir really can beat cerbe that way than cerbe has to beat new water legendary too. ( we wanna keep that haypi logic up )
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rathalos

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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:22 pm

Re: Debate time!

which talents does the monsters have?

if fenrir uses aurora, it attack would be 120 x 1.5 x 0.5 = 90 power, at lvl: 185 Matt vs 111 (in youe case 121) Mdef
if flight uses MB, it attack would be 120 x 2 = 240 power, at lvl 50: 145 att vs 131 def

if we purely look at the stats, it doesnt make sense. the only thing i can think of is at the fenrir have MF 2 as talents and that the cerb against flight have fort 2.

pure hypothetical:
MF2 add 33.3% DMG
fort 2 reduces 50% DMG

if fenrir uses aurora, it attack would be 120 x 1.5 x 0.5 x 1.33 = 120 power
if flight uses MB, it attack would be 120 x 2 x 0.5 = 120 power

with both attack at the same power, fenrir would definitely deal more dmg, because of the high Matt and low Mdef.

but its al comes to guessing, because no1 knows the exact numbers of talents.
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Post Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:31 pm

Re: Debate time!

This explains it lord^ if they had those talents
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