Meniss and Felicity

Does anyone know how to counter them both its really annoying that they have magic force11 and meniss has shadow swipe which increases his MATk most of the time plus both monsters have high MDEF and most of my elements fire,rock,grass,electric etc get 2 shotted
is invalidate the only way ?

Use Flight with unbending and you will never have to worry about them.
Iaijutzu for Felicity
Poison Leaves for Menisis

Use Flight with unbending and you will never have to worry about them.
Iaijutzu for Felicity
Poison Leaves for Menisis

thanks(: is there an alternative rather than using flight ?

Maybe Trunky with Cunning and unbending

Use Flight with unbending and you will never have to worry about them.
Iaijutzu for Felicity
Poison Leaves for Menisis

thanks(: is there an alternative rather than using flight ?

Scythe with resu talent - pod - massive boulder can handle these mobs. Can one shot meniss and 2 shots for felicity.

Unless felicity has flush, which is very common on my server at least.