Effects of Force/Magic Force/Armor/Magic Armor with Items

So I was just randomly clearing some map for the daily quest and happened to use my Smiter, with Force-II and equipped with Sharp Claw and a question popped into my head:

Do the multipliers, whatever their values are for Force/Magic Force/Armor/Magic Armor I,II and III include the +10 to whatever stats given by the items, or does the +10 come after the multiplier has been calculated?

If the above sounds confusing, let me use an example. My Smiter has an ATK of 145. Is its final ATK value:

(a) (145 x Force-II Multiplier) + 10 from Sharp Claw, or
b) (145 + 10) x Force-II Multiplier?

If we assume Force-II to boost ATK by 50%, (a) would give a value of 227.5, while (b) gives 232.5. What do you guys think? Can the admins shed some light on this? Thanks! (Apologies if anyone asked this before, don't recall seeing it in the forums)

I haven't seen specific numbers on that kind of stuff at all, except from fellow players that just tested and tested. It has always been a request of mine to see the actual numbers. but I haven't seen any yet.
It would be nice to know that stuff, but Ill play either way.

Hopefully these values will be added in future patches. My more immediate concern is deciding between Sharp Claws and Winged Boots on my Smiter. Boosting its speed to 135 seems appealing

With smiters high atk, and 125 speed, if you could always or mostly go first, thats what i would do.

With smiters high atk, and 125 speed, if you could always or mostly go first, thats what i would do.

Just changed the item for my Smiter, hope it's better now. I'd definitely want it to go first more often than not, considering that Smiter has pretty low DEF/MDEF as well. Thanks Bullhead!

Hi Garouchi! That is an excellent question!

As Bullhead said, the support staff has not revealed anything regarding the calculations for damages. I don't think they are going to either. I guess the only way we can figure this out is to do loads of experiments. We can really only hazard a guess as to how these are calculated.
However, I do believe option (a) in your first post is the right one but that's just from my own observations of the damages as equipping a Sharp Claw does not seem to add substantial amount of extra damage to Force 2/3 monsters.

Good luck!

Well, I tested my smitter force 2 and normal talent when its lvl 15 on some maps. Force 2 boost just 20% , and I assume that Magic Force 2 boost 20% too.
And, wearing sharp claw, waist band din't add dmg all and somehow thats a clarification about the winged boots was the first attack will be random between 10 points. Just the shield is working as I tested it my own. So, Force 3, Magic Force 3 will be boosting 50% because this talents almost one hit KO on most monster.

Plus, I equip my smiter boots, I definitely will go for boots if I were you

Thanks Lexoph and rhy7747 for your replies!

I have since equipped my Smiter with Winged Boots to negate its low DEF/MDEF, you know, try let it squeeze in an additional hit before it gets knocked out