Menis skill and talent

im gonna breed a S grade menis but wonderin what skills and talent shld i get for it

I've just finished breeding and got 2 S class meniss. My ultimate build would be hypno jinx 2, dream thief, cunning, PoD and soak/photosynthesis. That gives you an extremely strong monster as I've noticed jinx procs roughly 60-70% of the time for me (maybe higher just eyeball number) then dream thief for healing and damage on asleep opponents, soak if you need it as a heal waiting for jinx to kick in, cunning or PoD as you first move (as opponent gotta hit you first for talent to proc) so buff yourself or attack with strong move. If I was faster than opponent I'd buff first if slower may aswell use cunning as gonna attack last anyway.

My main meniss is coming along slow as rubbish luck with ghost books - it's lvl 40 now has jinx2, and dream thief. I'd start using it as soon as I got cunning as other 2 moves are really luxuries that are not really necessary (not necessary in the fact I want them and they would really improve my monster not necessary as in cunning can still 1shot and as long as jinx proc dream thief will 2shot aswell as heal me).

IMO meniss not beef enough to handle hypno-jinx talent, works better on vertedeath.

My build is magic force 2 - pod - cunning - shadow storm - photosynthesis.
For pvp 2v2, 1v1 & chaotic team mode. If no shadow storm then I would put water jets for guaranteed first turn hit.

I think that build is confusing, could you please explain how you use tactics with that mob in detail like I have and waters jets is a waste of a skill slot.

Magic force and PoD don't go together - you already have a big magic buff. Cunning makes you attack last and shadow storm while good 2v2 PvE and PvP is too weak. So be best to lose PoD and try and 1shot with cunning and buff from talent (against low Mdef opponent it will be enough)

This is how I can see it going - first turn you use PoD and they use 90 physical skill, second turn you're down to 10-20% health so you got 3 options either try cunning and go last and be killed or use shadow storm but its not strong enough to 1shot even with buffs so you're dead again or you heal. Ok so you made it to 3rd turn and got you're health up to 60% but they got another physical attack in so you start the round with 20-30% health which is another 1shot for your opponent so what you gonna do storm isn't enough and cunning attack last so both get you killed so your left with healing again. This will just go on and on until you run out of heals or your opponent realises what your doing and instead uses 120 skill and outright kills you. All this doesn't take into account whether they burnt, poisoned, paralysed or stunned you.

I think better would be magic force 2, soak, cunning, super fire bomb and maybe exhaust to sleep opponent (this last skill slot can is up to personal preference but just remember if ladder and PoD in slot there is good chance AI will use it and you'd lose). Personally I don't like magic force talent and prefer jinx and nightmare.

Nightmare build would be exhaust, PoD, cunning, dream thief. I'll explain build later gotta go out quick. This essentially means 90% of the time you gotta sleep opponent or you're gonna lose in 2 turns.

Flexible strategy .. In 1v1 pod-heal-cunning against most mobs..
In 2v2 pod-heal-shadow storm or if against team with psychic then shadow storm 1st turn.. In situations where you don't use pod but instead cunning & the opponent has a tiny bit of hp left water jets to go first regardless of opponents speed.

IMO meniss not beef enough to handle hypno-jinx talent, works better on vertedeath.

My build is magic force 2 - pod - cunning - shadow storm - photosynthesis.
For pvp 2v2, 1v1 & chaotic team mode. If no shadow storm then I would put water jets for guaranteed first turn hit.

Hi your mennis with pod and cunning if you used it in the ladder does he uses pod or he uses cunning all the time?

I actually agree, Hypno-jinx is better on Vertedeath as it can survive more skills.
Nightmare is an option but it is not recommended as Exhaust (Hypnosis) is just too unreliable, in my honest opinion.
Magic Force 2 is a good skill on Meniss but I think that Hypno-jinx is still the best talent for it as it usually survive 1-2 attacks if it's not weak against the type of the skill used.
I would recommend Hypno-jinx.

As I mentioned, I don't suggest Nightmare if you're only levelling 1 Meniss (though it is an option); therefore, I don't suggest Dream Thief as well. I have about 5 of those skills in my bag and not once did I use them as I don't think it's a good idea to have to rely on hypnosis moves (or talents). Besides, I'm not even sure if, in ladder, that AI is smart enough to use Dream Thief over Cunning. If it does, then, I still feel that it's not reliable.

Magic Force 2 is an option and may be used effectively with the skill set I recommend below. I just feel that Meniss usually uses Cunning and that extra magic attack isn't really enough for a lot of 1 hit kos. However, it is still a good skill. But as I said, I still recommend Hypno-jinx. It may not work all the time but I still think it is the best.

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tuyet9's skill set is what I recommend as I use the exact same one for my Vertedeath.
Photosynthesis - Power of Darkness - Cunning - Shadow Storm

I doubt a lot of players actually create different Meniss-es(?) for Ladder, PvP, PvE, etc. so this build is an excellent (excellent) all-rounder.
Shadow Storm is overlooked by a lot of people but they fail to see the attraction that I (and tuyet) get from it.
It hits both enemies which is very useful in PvP 2v2 and in Team mode when you're levelling. It does not make you always attack last. Since after PoD you will most likely out-speed most monsters, this is better than another Cunning or hoping for Dream Thief.
I don't suggest Water Jets, though. I just think it's a waste of a slot when you can have another move that has more uses - Shadow Storm, as suggested.

@crymtyme: PoD activates often and when you need it to enough times that you won't really worry about it too much - from my experience with Vertedeath.

So Im in the process of building my Meniss, still a long way from SS Expert but right now I have Hypno-Jinx, Seduction, and the basic skills.

Im thinking keep Hypno and Seduction and get Dream Thief, PoD and Cunning (what is it's PP and attack power?). This might leave me with very low offensive PP though depending on Cunning's PP, and I would be relying on Hypno+Dream Thief to keep my health up.

I already have a Soak in my bag, would that make for a better Healing move? Should I ditch Seduction for Soak or Dream Thief for Soak? Ill be using this as a general PvE monster, PvP isnt top main priority.

So Im in the process of building my Meniss, still a long way from SS Expert but right now I have Hypno-Jinx, Seduction, and the basic skills.

Im thinking keep Hypno and Seduction and get Dream Thief, PoD and Cunning (what is it's PP and attack power?). This might leave me with very low offensive PP though depending on Cunning's PP, and I would be relying on Hypno+Dream Thief to keep my health up.

I already have a Soak in my bag, would that make for a better Healing move? Should I ditch Seduction for Soak or Dream Thief for Soak? Ill be using this as a general PvE monster, PvP isnt top main priority.

Cunning has 10 PP so you should be fine in that department. However, I would advice another offensive skill to go with it. Personally, I like Shadow Storm but if you want to use Dream Thief, go ahead. It's harder to use but it's more powerful and it heals!
Cunning, normally, has 60 Power but it makes the opponent's monster have its magic defence lower so it is great in that sense. Cunning is great, in my opinion.

For a PvE monster, Seduction would mostly be used just for bosses. Soak is useful for any type of battle. However, if you want to use Soak on another monster, which might be a worthier one, then, you should do that. Seduction is already a good move. I, personally, like having a healing move (Photosynthesis/Soak) partnered with Power of Darkness but that's my preference.

Good luck!