Bug Talk

Okay so first I know there's already a sub-forum dedicated for bugs and glitches but the purpose of this thread is to talk about the exploitation of these bugs.

I've recently visited the new forum in Board Index, Terms of Use, and started reading the rules. I stumbled upon the thread Forum/Game Rules and noticed something very intriguing. Bug Abuse.

Bug Abuse
Exploiting in-game bugs is prohibited. In-game bugs should be reported to Haypi Support immediately.

I would also like to quote Tonkatsu because I daresay, he is no doubt correct about this particular topic.

Tonkatsu

Ah that sounds like at least a month from now. I think they need to release a v1.11 to address all the bugs and imba elements now. For example, adaptability and flight's tech 2. And do something about the low chance of changing talents with runes. All these issues are quite game breaking IMO and should be attended to ASAP. All the other major gameplay updates like ice monsters and level 50, we can wait np.

Now, my question is this. Should the players who are currently using bugged monster talents like Adaptability and Technician-II be punished? They are clearly abusing the bug and as the former quotation states, that is prohibited. I know that this is a bold move by myself and whatever happens, I'll stand my case. Those bug abusers don't deserve to get their spot in ladder/pvp leaderboards. It's not fair that they'll get a better chance of getting Purity first before all others who are playing fair.

Either fix the game by disabling talents for now or punish them. That's all I have to say.

There are so manyyyy noobs in my server that talks smack because they have adapt... ;(((

My 2 cents are as follows,

1) Players who are using these "bugged" talents/skills should not be punished due to the negligence of HM for not properly testing and balancing all these new talents out themselves before a public release. I personally believe they are not bugs, and are working as intended by HM, (although I do agree that some are unfair).

2) If HM wanted to, they could release a hotfix in mere hours (probably exaggerated to get my point across) to address the issue, but seeing how they are not, its completely justifiable to use these bugged talents/skills.

3) There's an equal chance for everyone to use/abuse/whatever the same monsters/talents. It's not like Adaptability or Technician is limited to the first 10 players or something, anyone who is determined to get it, will.

These talents arent bugs, they're just overpowered compared to the rest. This is the first patch they implemented the talents, they just need some time and feedbacks to balance the talents.

I would rather call the rune gems a bugg, every1 keep getting the same talents over and over again.

I still don't understand, why Tech2, who gives around 15% more dmg is overpowered, when Adaptability nearly makes your attacks 2-3Times stronger. Still wonder

Before I start commenting, thanks for quoting me!

Back to the topic, as much as I think that all these bugs make the game unfair, it is not feasible to punish the players that use them.
In my case, I actually have tech 2 on one of my flights. When I breed 3 grade S flights, I had tech 2, unbending and evade on them. However, I didn't change my tech 2 even though I knew about the bug. Firstly, I would waste an ultimate rune. Secondly, it will have great synergy with frenzied attack on my flight even after it's fixed. Should I be punished in this case? The talents were randomly allocated to my flights when I bred them.

I agree with zenjio that this bug issue is really more of HM's negligence than anything. Their main priority should be to fix them ASAP instead of focusing on the progression of v1.2

Also, if players who used adapt/tech 2 etc. are punished, I think HM servers will be more dead than it already is now. The best solution IMO is to fix all these bugs NOW.

And on zenjio's point that everyone can abuse the talents, I heard this rumor that adapt is no longer obtainable. This player claims that his server tried to obtain it through runes and breeding but no one has seen 1 with adapt these few days. I myself have bred neos from E to B with 10 over of them but I haven't seen 1 with adapt either.

These talents arent bugs, they're just overpowered compared to the rest. This is the first patch they implemented the talents, they just need some time and feedbacks to balance the talents.

I would rather call the rune gems a bugg, every1 keep getting the same talents over and over again.

I believe tech 2 is a bug, because it's supposed to proc on skills <60 damage only, or at least that's what I heard.

I still don't understand, why Tech2, who gives around 15% more dmg is overpowered, when Adaptability nearly makes your attacks 2-3Times stronger. Still wonder

However, I agree with kleingoku. Tech 2 isn't that gamebreaking IMO. The damage increase is tiny compared to adaptability. It's just a bug that needs to be fixed.

I understand that they just implemented the talents, and probably need some time to fix them. But we need to at least see some actions taken and responses from the admins/moderators! The least they can do is assure us that all these will be fixed eventually.

Hopefully its not the Power of the Dammageskill, when its rlly a Bug, but the Dammage the Flight does on the opponent. In my server, there were more then 200 tries and noone got Tech2 or Adaptability the last 7 days. Comment from Moderator would be nice.

greets

What I'm trying to say exactly is disable the talents for now. The part where I said that players should be punished is just a catch so they'll respond to it ASAP. I understand that it's not our fault for these bugs and it's solely their responsibility hence my proposition of disabling the talents until they're fixed.

It's a rebalancing issue not a bug.

Reason for this is The description of the talents are vague. Therefore if the description says for example the "talent x does more damage." Whether talent X does 1 more DMg or 1 million more DMg. It's still does what the talent says it does and is true.

Now on the other hand if the talent description said " talent x does 10 % more DMg" and the talent actually did 20% more DMg than that is a bug.

People how whine about neo/Draco adapt teams. Get a behometh and one shot Both of them. It's not hard. Find the rock that breaks the scissors