Lexoph wrote:Did you mean a monster WITH STAB or skills WITH elemental advantage?
I don't fully understand that question - it's ambiguous.
Cunning already has 10 PP and it's not really necessary to get 2. Besides, it is powerful enough that most attacks after it will defeat the monster. You really only want to get 2 x a skill if the skill has 5 PP or less. Therefore, from your choices, Cunning + Aurora Borealis is definitely the better option.
I was asking about casting Cunning 1st turn since I cant 1HKO anyway, then cast Aurora for the follow up kill vs casting Cunning both turns and taking the second hit, which would do more damage, both without STAB bonus and against an element neutral monster, such as a Flight.
A standalone Neon that doesnt require weather Rain Prayer set up or to have the element advantage at any time.
And being viable in the ladder might have precedent since there are certain circumstances when a monster will use a weaker skill for example; using Lupa it will use Poison Poison Petals instead of Spirit Channel against Shelly choosing element advantage over STAB or using a Smither, Poison Petals over Poison Leaves against an Armordillo ignoring the higher Power because the monster has lower MDEF.
That means there is some precedent in the ladder for choosing a weaker element neutral magic attack vs a Earth monster than Thunderstorm, a stronger power, element disadvantage, STAB physical attack, especially fighting lower MDEF then DEF monsters. And it will pick the move that has the element advantage if it comes up.
IE, Neon will cast Aurora vs Earth and Grass or Normal, Psychic, Ice if their MDEF is much lower than their DEF, will cast Mind Bending on Ghost or Fire if their MDEF is much lower than their def, Thunderstorm vs Water or Grass, Fire, Ice, Normal, Psychic if their DEF and MDEF are the same or MDEF is stronger.
Anyway long winded-ness aside, dumping Cunning seems like the best bet since it means I cant take Invalidate and means I have to take hits every time I use it.
Sooo final build would be Invalidate, Thunderstorm, Aurora Borealis, Mind Bending and something else
This would allow me to do more against Earth before dying, probably kill Vertes, kill most PoD monsters, kill Smiter and do over all more damage to more different monsters without relying on Rain Prayer and STS.