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Lexoph

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:17 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

Kanger wrote:Lexoph, the problem is not with the reward but with allowing boosting exploits. There seems to be no way to enforce anti-boosting. I agree that it is unfair. We have people with scores above 3200 on our server. Ridiculous.

They also use a different exploit where they use 4 devices and play 2 vs 2 against themselves to boost their own scores on their main account while keeping their alt accounts at a score of 200 or less.

I hope Haypi finds a way to restrict such exploits.

Yes, that's the point. There's no way to stop these abuses at the moment. Therefore, the rewards for doing so and getting to the top (which other players with no multiple devices can reach) must not be too high. If the difference between this and what the normal players get (or strive to get) is not substantial, there should be no problems. This is why I am suggesting for it to be reduced.

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cakeller98

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:54 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

Nope... 100 coins is too many? Really? Hahahahahah.... That's just silly talk.

Coins are too expensive in the first place. I'm all for keeping things semi-accessible. But really 100 coins causing an uproar?

Anyway.. A possible solution is to make pvp more fair in the first place.

And make the ranking more like a chess tournament... And use chess ranking style.

High rank vs low rank... If high rank wins... Low point gain for higher player and low loss for lower ranking player. And if lower ranking player wins... BIGGER loss for higher ranking player and bigger gain for lower ranking player.

Also you should be able to choose who to fight... Bot or human. It is truly unfair to play as lowly player agains the top 5 players on your server. They are ALWAYS going to win..., so if they are currently farming the you are screwed... THAT is where it is unfair.

D we want rewards for time spent playing? Or for skill? If its skill... The. It shouldn't really matter how many times you play... More about the quality of the challenges you make.

Maybe there should be pvp training where it's always fairly matched up you will never be challenged by someone who you cannot beat and they could beat you too....

But for the tournament... Maybe it should be something more like sports tournament - you set up yur team, enter the tournament and the system automates the playoffs. At the end of each day there is a winner...

Once you win one tournament day, you are out until the 9th day.
On the ninth day the winners of the previous 8 days go through a championship tournament. Ranking them from 1 to 8

Divide the award amongst them... 100 to the winner would be fine there because no chance to cheat since its all automated.

100 to the winner, 50 to the 2nd place, 25 to third, and 10 to 4-10th place.

And the daily top 10 could get 10,5,3, and 1 respectively.

The pvp is actually kinda lame... Ladder is fun, but not very sophisticated.

I like the idea of a tournament, if its done nice and fair.

The ladder winners will PROBABLY dominate, but shouldnt they? They have the most and best monsters. And just like any sport... The top are usually the best funded.

As long as its fun... That's what matters. To hell with FAIR.
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AcheTH

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:03 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

After I've read all the post I realize one thing. You guys either don't really know how to boost pvp point or overlook how easy it is to fix it.

PvP boost is having one account lower its integral to the point of negative value then team up with the main account looking for bots.

To fix this simply don't allow integral to be lowered than 1500 thus PvP abuser can only get to 2500 with bots.
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pizymisa

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

AcheTH wrote:After I've read all the post I realize one thing. You guys either don't really know how to boost pvp point or overlook how easy it is to fix it.

PvP boost is having one account lower its integral to the point of negative value and team up with the main account and looking for bots.

To fix this simply don't allow integral to be lowered than 1500 thus PvP abuser can only get to 2500 with bots.



And the developers and designers simply refuse to change any aspect of pvp
They think their design is flawless.
Pvp has been the same since day I, despite many suggestions on many things have been make over the time.
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pizymisa

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:24 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

Mark my words, if we give this reward system four weeks,

Count all the winners across all the servers.

If they can find ONE No.1 player who didnt use two devices, or three, or four, ( there are people using nine phones, as far as I know)

If they can find ONE who just played with other players and bots,

Then I'm wrong here. All the doubt I had regarding this reward system is invalid.
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HamaniDrake

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:06 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

And dont forget something really important , that eggs legendries are so OVERPOWERED !! And it changes every months , so basicly if someon got first in pvp weekly for a month he will have 400 gold coins + the daily gold coins which is worth 60 gold coins per month , it means that player will have 460 gold coins EVERY month !! And that is like 10 or 11 orange eggs !!!!! , so if that player got all the legendry it will be infair for other players man , i mean fenrir already is a pain with only lvl 50 , and i dont even want to know how he will be when he is lvl 60 !! And as i can see that fire legendery with such HIGH def and speed is wow!! , so its like u are making this over powerd eggs legendry more likely to be free for the pvp dominators , oh and dont forget these legendries comes with 120 power skills , and now u can upgrade them ! , so iam so doomed :) iam not even vip !! How can i survive in this game any longer ??!!?? :(
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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:47 am

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

This feature on the PvP system would only make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
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howardchung

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:06 pm

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

Could anyone tell me what is PvP stand for?

For the high score people, are they doing PvP?

Thanks for your attention
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Kanger

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:09 pm

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

Ache, I agree with you. I think there should be a minimum integral to play PVP. Maybe, have the lowest PVP score anyone can have be set at 1,400 or so in order to prevent the cheating. Some legitimate players may lose and get there scores lowered up to a 100 points, but this will prevent the intentional lowering of people's alt accounts to ridiculously low scores of 200 or less.
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Nochotwo

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Post Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:54 pm

Re: PvP Weekly Rewards - Too Much?

100 coins sounds like a lot, but it really isn't. It is two dice boxes, two orange eggs or two days of full training (2+4+6+40). I hope that it ends up some kind of weekly rotation, or even though I loathe them, a prize wheel. Either of those would be okay. I imagine that the first few weeks will be super hectic, but doing that much pvp week in and week out will get tiresome very quickly. Also another note is, the people will be doing so much pvp, they won't be doing the new levels over and over for monster xp.
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