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ansonzc1028

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Post Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:04 pm

Re: Penetrate.

Does penetrate work on monster with defence buffs like mdef boost, amor-3 etc. ?
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Kanger

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Post Wed May 15, 2013 1:44 am

Re: Penetrate.

Someone on this board indicated that penetrate ability cuts through power of darkness (POD) defense boosts. I tested this and found that penetrate does not cut through POD. I am not sure if this is a bug or intentional. But, the inability to cut through POD, in my view, makes penetrate a less desirable ability than technician-II or unbending on Flight.

So, unless Haypi fixes how penetrate works against POD, I would not recommend it over tech II or unbending.
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Lexoph

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Post Wed May 15, 2013 2:08 am

Re: Penetrate.

Kanger wrote:Someone on this board indicated that penetrate ability cuts through power of darkness (POD) defense boosts. I tested this and found that penetrate does not cut through POD. I am not sure if this is a bug or intentional. But, the inability to cut through POD, in my view, makes penetrate a less desirable ability than technician-II or unbending on Flight.

So, unless Haypi fixes how penetrate works against POD, I would not recommend it over tech II or unbending.

I was told about Penetrate bypassing PoD as well so I assumed it was correct, though I have never tested it.
Someone in the forum said that this was one of the reasons why Penetrate is a good skill so I just followed this. Sorry if I sent the wrong message! I do remember posting once about this being true, though I didn't test it.

Thanks for the info, Kanger!
I am glad I didn't change my Flights' and Vertedeaths' skills to this.

Also, a support staff in the Bugs section stated that it is not supposed to work with PoD.
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superfly88_713

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Post Wed May 15, 2013 2:53 am

Re: Penetrate.

Lol grr lex. Wasted so many runes getting everything but penetrate on my 2nd verta
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chesaki

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Post Wed May 15, 2013 12:55 pm

Re: Penetrate.

Penetrate only cancel defensive talent, while POD is not a talent.
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crymtyme

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Post Thu May 16, 2013 9:42 pm

Re: Penetrate.

penetrate also cancel ressurect...
so if a monster has a ressurect tallent it wont ressurect if u use a monster with a penetrate tallent..
penetrate also work against an invalidate neon. when u use cunning
alao work on unbending when u use cunning
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tuyet9

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Post Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 am

Re: Penetrate.

My bad!! haha.. I think I am the original person who made the mistake of saying penetrate cut through POD.. Wrong abt that, just Verte with penetrate/cunning did so much dmg thought it cancelled POD.

Penetrate cancels : Unbending, Invalidate, Pure, Detonate, Resurrect, Thorn1, Thorn2, Evade. --All tested :lol:

Lets POD cut through Invalidate, Cunning cut through invalidate/unbending/pure. Scythe that's supposed to detonate or resurrect will do no extra damage and will not come back to life. Thorn1/2 will do absolutely no return damage. Ambush works on evade.
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superfly88_713

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Post Fri May 17, 2013 5:38 pm

Re: Penetrate.

10 runes later still no pentrate. Although the last 7 were all nightmare
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Lexoph

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Post Fri May 17, 2013 5:40 pm

Re: Penetrate.

tuyet9 wrote:My bad!! haha.. I think I am the original person who made the mistake of saying penetrate cut through POD.. Wrong abt that, just Verte with penetrate/cunning did so much dmg thought it cancelled POD.

Penetrate cancels : Unbending, Invalidate, Pure, Detonate, Resurrect, Thorn1, Thorn2, Evade. --All tested :lol:

Lets POD cut through Invalidate, Cunning cut through invalidate/unbending/pure. Scythe that's supposed to detonate or resurrect will do no extra damage and will not come back to life. Thorn1/2 will do absolutely no return damage. Ambush works on evade.

Thanks, tuyet!

I want to change to Penetrate now but I'm not too keen on letting go of Hypno Jynx until I know I'll get Penetrate. It seems that Penetrate's benefits will be encountered more as the process rate for Hypno Jynx is almost laughable for me.
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tuyet9

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Post Fri May 17, 2013 5:53 pm

Re: Penetrate.

Hypno jinx never works for me as well! I even have exhaust on my hypno jinx and they never get hypnotized...

I bred/runes talents for skelly about 10x @ S class without seeing nightmare. I got 3x penetrate, 1x pressure, 2x hypnosis jinx, 4x paranormal barrier. On the way to S class I think ALL of the skelly I saw was paranormal barrier.

Edit : oops, and 1x matk force 3 s skelly . Lvling that right how :D
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