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kleingoku

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:33 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

then ---> imba. lol
Even though i used 30 runes and havn't gotten 1 pressure ;P
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spletty

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:35 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

wait 2 days, update will do the rest.

If u then got a monster with penetrate Foresight will be useless, so they made their verthe useless. I also use that tactic, but only on 2 Verthe, Fenrir and Cerberus do the rest :)

Also then Pressure can not be added...

just read sneak peek guys ;)
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kleingoku

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:36 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

But who does use penetrate only for that purpose ? :lol: Almost noone
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spletty

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:41 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

lol penetrate is usefull against foresight and taunt.

Many people use one or both tactics on my server, so it's very usefull ;)
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Bullhead81

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:02 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

Thanks Spletty, here is the notes for V1.4.1

【Skills/Mystery Talents】
1. Bugs fixed on Mirror Shield and Magic Shield.
2. Adjusted the effect of Pressure.
The effect of the mystery talent Pressure will no longer be stacked when multiple monsters with Pressure are in combat.
3. Adjustment made on Penetrate.
Penetrate will now work against Foresight, Mirror Shield, and Magic Shield.

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xxInsaniacxx

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:17 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

Bullhead81 wrote:Thanks Spletty, here is the notes for V1.4.1

【Skills/Mystery Talents】
1. Bugs fixed on Mirror Shield and Magic Shield.
2. Adjusted the effect of Pressure.
The effect of the mystery talent Pressure will no longer be stacked when multiple monsters with Pressure are in combat.
3. Adjustment made on Penetrate.
Penetrate will now work against Foresight, Mirror Shield, and Magic Shield.

That's pretty awesome lol I accidentally read over it
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junicobakura

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:25 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

There Should be a Talent that Negates the Effects of Activating talents,
Ehem, Invalidate, ehem
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Lord.Rex

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Post Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:30 pm

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

Invalidate already stops stat changes why make it stop talents as well? That'll just make it extremely op
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SwiftDeath_599

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Post Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:50 am

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

Just replied this to Bullhead privately.. But might as well release it to you guys as well..

This maybe arduous but this'll help..


Strategies:

1. Test if a monster w/ Pure talent (i.e. Grubby, Glider) gets affected with Pressure if not then its a solution.

Grubby - Sandstorm, Swords Dance, Rock Fall, Rock Sling / Other buff skill w/ 10PP
Glider- Sandstorm, Swords Dance / Meditation, 2x Any Elemental Attack / Any Elemental Attack & Other Buff Skill w/ 10PP

2. Use de-buff skills w/ Penetrate. Leverage the turns you dont't receive any damage, use Curse, Lethal Powder or simply Poison Powder w/ Flight or Vertedeath. Once enemy is inflicted just do endless switch until they die, the. Repeat for other similar enemny monster

Vertedeath - PoD, Curse, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis), Cunning
Flight - PoD, Curse, Heal (Photsynthesis/Soak), Lethal Powder / Elemental Skill

3. Barrage them w/ hard-hitting attacks, use their strength as yours! You receive no damage against them right? The. Do stack buff and deliver OHKO w/ Penetrate! Remember you won't ve receiving any damage inducing 120power STAT reduction skills should be ok..

Vertedeath - PoD, Molten Core, Cunning, Aurora Borealis (for Felicity)
Flight - PoD, Swords Dance, Massive Boulder, Super Firebomb

4. 2v2 dilemma? Go with Penetrate and Nightmare!

Vertedeath(Penetate) - PoD, Curse, Exhaust, Cunning
Vertedeath / Meniss (Nightmare) - PoD, Molten Core / Sandstorm, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis)

5. Pressure vs Pressure, remember your opponent has only 12 max PP if he only has Foresight, if you also have Foresight all 4 o your opponents monster would last at least 12 turns! One or teo monster w/ Pressure should do the trick!

Vertedeath - PoD, Molten Core, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis), Cunning/Punishment
Felicity - Meditation, Memory Wipe, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis), Mind-bending

Note: My previous reply was rushed, but the gist of my previous post should back this up..

1. I think Penetrate would cut thru Foresight after 1.4.1
2. The monster builds here are devised to support your current concern and flexible enough to handle other functions
3. No team setup will be unbeatable
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chesaki

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Post Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:55 am

Re: Unbeatable PvP Combo

SwiftDeath_599 wrote:Just replied this to Bullhead privately.. But might as well release it to you guys as well..

This maybe arduous but this'll help..


Strategies:

1. Test if a monster w/ Pure talent (i.e. Grubby, Glider) gets affected with Pressure if not then its a solution.

Grubby - Sandstorm, Swords Dance, Rock Fall, Rock Sling / Other buff skill w/ 10PP
Glider- Sandstorm, Swords Dance / Meditation, 2x Any Elemental Attack / Any Elemental Attack & Other Buff Skill w/ 10PP

2. Use de-buff skills w/ Penetrate. Leverage the turns you dont't receive any damage, use Curse, Lethal Powder or simply Poison Powder w/ Flight or Vertedeath. Once enemy is inflicted just do endless switch until they die, the. Repeat for other similar enemny monster

Vertedeath - PoD, Curse, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis), Cunning
Flight - PoD, Curse, Heal (Photsynthesis/Soak), Lethal Powder / Elemental Skill

3. Barrage them w/ hard-hitting attacks, use their strength as yours! You receive no damage against them right? The. Do stack buff and deliver OHKO w/ Penetrate! Remember you won't ve receiving any damage inducing 120power STAT reduction skills should be ok..

Vertedeath - PoD, Molten Core, Cunning, Aurora Borealis (for Felicity)
Flight - PoD, Swords Dance, Massive Boulder, Super Firebomb

4. 2v2 dilemma? Go with Penetrate and Nightmare!

Vertedeath(Penetate) - PoD, Curse, Exhaust, Cunning
Vertedeath / Meniss (Nightmare) - PoD, Molten Core / Sandstorm, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis)

5. Pressure vs Pressure, remember your opponent has only 12 max PP if he only has Foresight, if you also have Foresight all 4 o your opponents monster would last at least 12 turns! One or teo monster w/ Pressure should do the trick!

Vertedeath - PoD, Molten Core, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis), Cunning/Punishment
Felicity - Meditation, Memory Wipe, Heal (Soak/Photosynthesis), Mind-bending

Note: My previous reply was rushed, but the gist of my previous post should back this up..

1. I think Penetrate would cut thru Foresight after 1.4.1
2. The monster builds here are devised to support your current concern and flexible enough to handle other functions
3. No team setup will be unbeatable


The point 5 are valid, put one monster with pressure in front, the other is pewg who spam drown and or smitter with toxic stake, then just spam switching your monster manually in and out until the end
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