Meniss/Vertedeath Not Using Cunning Against Angelo/Felicity

Dude do u really think boss have more the 0 speed ? Coz i always use 2x lvl 1 monsters to get some exp before i sacrifice them and even they are lvl 1 they attack boss first . Boss is made to one shot u and with 0 speed so u can go first , no matter what skill u use . I am 100% sure even i put 4x cunning on my monster it will hit boss first ( no matter of what description says . Sadly we can't make one bet on 1000 coins , else i can put 4x cunning skills on lvl 1 meniss to take ur money .

You really don't know how cunning works. I could put it on griff 190 speed and it will go last against the slowest mob on the game.

Do you have proof the bosses speed is 0?. It could be 1.
Do you have proof that if you put 4 cunnings on it will go first?

No u don't. Do you even have cunning?

If u speak with support to put ur 100 bucks and mine 100 bucks on coins , we can easy prove who is wrong and who is right . winner get everything .

Someone really fails at reading. It's not that hard

Did u speak with support for the bet already ? Or should i speak with them ? or u dont want to loose 100 bucks ?

Did u speak with support for the bet already ? Or should i speak with them ? or u dont want to loose 100 bucks ?

If I bet you and I win there is no way for me to make you pay up. You would just dishonour it.
You promise means nothing to me.


If you want to prove your theory against what the skill actually says it does you would man up and slap 4 cunnings on a mob and screen shot it.

Just like the guy who said u can't miss on raid bosses and slapped 4x absolute zero on his neon and it didn't work

Easy guys, I imagine the AI is set to not use Cunning against raid bosses, and the bosses speed is irrelevant. But a 4x Cunning tester would be pretty fun to watch.

And Superfly, just a heads up, Valence plays/knows enough about the game to top the ladder/PvP on my server. He's not a 'noob' as it were.

Easy guys, I imagine the AI is set to not use Cunning against raid bosses, and the bosses speed is irrelevant. But a 4x Cunning tester would be pretty fun to watch.

And Superfly, just a heads up, Valence plays/knows enough about the game to top the ladder/PvP on my server. He's not a 'noob' as it were.

How is topping the ladder relevant to how a skill works? It clearly states you go after your opponent. It does not say speed is a factor. This is a fact.

When you use cunning against other opponents not using cunning you go last regardless of speed this is also a fact.

So far all I heard is wild theories with lack of proof to substantiate. Not even testing done.

Not that it matters nor relevant. I was ranked #1 six days in row except today, against top fen groups. I don't have fen. Since you brought it up like it matters

Our bet will stay in support ofc i have same trust in u as u have for me , also do u really think everything that skills/talents says work as u think it is ? it is sure that cunning work by lowering ur speed down to 0-1 but as i said boss is made to move after u , i am sure and i will bet on that speed will matter and when its 0 it will move after cunning no matter what skill says i can give u and 5-6 talents/skills that does not work as it says in ur important description .

Valence just listen to superfly he is right. I have meniss with cunning and i didn't like it when cunning always was slower than the other skills. After that i tried against a level 4 bud with my meniss level 50. Guess who attacked first : Bud
So don't think you are right because cunning is always last attack except when opponent uses cunning too but angelo and felicity can't use cunning
Thanks for clearing up with picture.i did know about cunning but didn't read it. Just tested myself.