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zshannaz

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:58 am

Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

I think it's super sad that Haypi once an overall evenly balanced game has turned into a pay to win.

These eggs and legendary monsters are ruining this game. I have personally between all the accounts on different servers that I have, spent over 1000 coins(server compensations) and didnt get 1 legendary.

Some people are paying hundreds for eggs that give them a completely OP'd advantage over the normal players. There is no balance in this game anymore. It used to be people cash shopping to level, now its super cash shopping for monsters other people cant EARN or obtain.

Legendary monsters that cast weather instantly are unfair and stupid OP. Them being legendary are naturally higher stats + weather make it so you can't even stand a chance.

This game is over run with monsters that are OP'd and are a gamble to obtain and cost too much money.

I dont know about you but I wont shell out money gambling on a monster and end up like some people claiming they've spent 550$ for 1 legendary.


Haypi, you're messing up and really effecting the balance and community.

I won't pay to win. Sorry.
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sleven7

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:49 am

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

Unfortunately for you Haypi is making a killing off orange eggs. Im sure thats not gonna change any time soon. Im sorry your lucks bad but i know a few players on my server who are top ten and have 0 legends. Haypi is working out the kinks in pvp so stick with it, If not then just dont pay or play.
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zshannaz

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:02 am

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

I dont care if I get them or not. It was a test of how many coins I had used and the fact I didnt get one by chance. So thats going to show just how much money someone can spend (1000 coins worth) and not get anything was the point I was making.

Whether they are adjusting pvp or not, they need to change the monsters, and stop with the "making a killing" and think about the community as a whole, not the people with endless wallets.

Every pay to win game ends the same. Everyone quits except the cash shoppers and people whove been there from the beginning simply because of loyalty. It will chase away any new people because there is simply no way to compete, and all that will remain are the people who have no problems shelling out hundreds, and the people that already have.
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Ryeballs

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:25 am

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

He is right though, pay to win is a design danger/failure that often befalls free to play games
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schwag

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:33 am

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

It's not even pay to win. It's pay and be lucky to win. There's people who have spent hundreds on eggs and gotten nothing and there's people who buy one egg with compensation coins or daily reward coins and get the most op monsters in the game. Paying to win is fine, you had to pay for verte and fel and they were a huge help but weren't an automatic win. It's the luck factor and the fact that oels if used correctly (not by noobs who don't know what they're doing) are an auto win.
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HaTeRz

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:10 am

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

Honestly if you made this game you would do the same thing, think about how much they've spent on making this game(which is free). They have to make their money back somehow. So what they do is put out legendaries with a little chance of being captured or cracked. Which then feeds them cuz their customers(us) spends gang of money.

What I'm trying to say is if you were in their shoes you would do the exact same thing as long as you make money you're fine and if you don't then you make something such as orange eggs to get everybody pumped. So they end up buying them so they can take a huge leap in the game.

At first I was just like you. Now what I have to say is if you don't like it you don't have to play it, it's that simple. Enough with these dumb topics.
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stevo09

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:05 am

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

Yeah especially since most pay-to-first players quit fairly quickly because they have nothing to do :p lol eventually the game will end up failing to support it like Most other games
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FrenZy

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:47 pm

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

Every free game needs to have some sort of cash flow to keep the servers up, if you had a game that was free to play and there was no *pay to win* aspect then you would be the person to make a thread about "Why is there no updates this game sucks!!!"... Well there's no updates because there's no cash flow.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but surely before the OEL's there was 1500 gold to get a second vertredeath for S rank breeding, vertredeath dominated all the pvp with the correct build, so this game has been pay to win alot longer than you think.

Personal advice would be to find a game that's a one off payment that has no pay to win feature.

In addition I know they have made it reall hard to cover BL EXP without OEL"s, the really does suck but you can still reach 2200 above pvp with a pewg Thor combo.... There's not much counter for a taunt pewg until they release a taunt earth or you just run a double cleave, but it's the safest way to get 2200.
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superfly88_713

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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:25 pm

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

here's my view on it.

1. Before OEL's there was verta/Felicity etc. This gave a slight advantage but was still fairly easy to beat. The gap between OEL's and non OEL's is much larger in both stats and talents, which make it close to impossible to beat a full OEL team in the hands of a capable user.

True there are people with non-OEL's topping the servers. I'm one of those people, I beat a lot a unskilled players with OEL's easily but when I meet a skilled player I have no chance. In time unskilled players will become skilled. And my time is coming to an end.

2. The argument that Haypi needs to make money to run the servers and survive, earning a fair profit. In my opinion haypi has already by far surpassed this tenfold. Probably to the point rolling around naked in money each night.

Let's look at its operating cost.

Firstly, it's a Chinese company so overhead is going to be much much lower than a north American company. Labor, parts, servers, lower taxes (if they actually claim all their income) etc. They have one support staff to handle 40+ servers. (Vicki) They don't employee staff to cover weekends.

When you compare it to a North American company such as Blizzard, who charges $10 per month, has thousands of support staff 24/7. Ingame GM's. Much larger content. Much higher operating cost being in America. Much better balancing and bug fixing. And yet still make billions a year. They are able to support all of this and make large profits with $10/month.

While people here spent $1000 (8-9 years worth of WOW subscription) and have gotten very little in return in terms of game content.

So to sum it up. Yes, I agree that Haypi needs to make money to survive. However, I think are way pass that point and rolling in cash by the barrels (pun intended). And have given very little back in terms on game content and really really cheaped out on the support. The average annual wage in China is around $330/month in big cities. In rural areas its 10% of that.
That's 3 coin barrels a month to employee a 2nd support staff. I find that hard to believe employing 1-2 more support staff (give up a few coin barrels) will bankrupt the company.

Greed...
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Post Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:04 pm

Re: Eggs/Legendary/Cash Shopping Ruining This Game

Nice posting. +1
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