New Gryhpion Talents

Valence,

They make these types of changes all the time.
When talents was first introduce Hypojinx and Tech 2 was way overpowered every rushed to get the talents spent lots of runes to get them.

Once they realized these talents where way over powered they nerfed them significantly. They did not compenstate people. This type of balancing happens all the time in these types of games.

To let people keep Fort 2 on Cred/Fen and rain on Griff and not allow new players to get these talents is just absurb.

But the problem here is way too different , its not about nurfed talents or buffed talents , it's about changed talents and since we speak about legendary monster is quiet different about : hey man i spend 5 ultimate runes and i got talent or hey man i breed 5 times and i got talent and now its nurfed . Now its about hey man i put crazy effort to get talent that i wanted and its not nurfed it DISAPPEAR and i used 45 cards of exp for monster that i dont need now coz my talent is changed and i got random talent ... Talents should NOT be changed , if u want to make it right ( speaking to haypi ) u gotta add all of that talents back for like 1 month or so!!! Then with ofc ANNOUNCEMENT : we are changing talents to new ones , so all old talents wont be available after that !!! or we are changing talents and we will change your talents and compensate u !!! Got my point ? And lets not speak about Fenrir new talents , coz i have mixed feeling about it ... but same should be done and there , coz if u remove my invalidate u ruin my strategy for example for ladder ( atm i am using new talent blizzard ) but lets just say i am not , u ruin my pvp strategy etc etc , so it is very simple : just make ANNOUNCEMENT like 1 month early when u are about to change MY strategy/tactic so i can make new one ( i have new one ) but lets just say that many players relay on invalidate fenrir only and now they drop 20 places in ladder ... will that players be happy or will they continue playin at all after they spend real money for monster , got what they want and it disappear just like that ...

Valence,

They make these types of changes all the time.
When talents was first introduce Hypojinx and Tech 2 was way overpowered every rushed to get the talents spent lots of runes to get them.

Once they realized these talents where way over powered they nerfed them significantly. They did not compenstate people. This type of balancing happens all the time in these types of games.

To let people keep Fort 2 on Cred/Fen and rain on Griff and not allow new players to get these talents is just absurb.

But the problem here is way too different , its not about nurfed talents or buffed talents , it's about changed talents and since we speak about legendary monster is quiet different about : hey man i spend 5 ultimate runes and i got talent or hey man i breed 5 times and i got talent and now its nurfed . Now its about hey man i put crazy effort to get talent that i wanted and its not nurfed it DISAPPEAR and i used 45 cards of exp for monster that i dont need now coz my talent is changed and i got random talent ... Talents should NOT be changed , if u want to make it right ( speaking to haypi ) u gotta add all of that talents back for like 1 month or so!!! Then with ofc ANNOUNCEMENT : we are changing talents to new ones , so all old talents wont be available after that !!! or we are changing talents and we will change your talents and compensate u !!! Got my point ? And lets not speak about Fenrir new talents , coz i have mixed feeling about it ... but same should be done and there , coz if u remove my invalidate u ruin my strategy for example for ladder ( atm i am using new talent blizzard ) but lets just say i am not , u ruin my pvp strategy etc etc , so it is very simple : just make ANNOUNCEMENT like 1 month early when u are about to change MY strategy/tactic so i can make new one ( i have new one ) but lets just say that many players relay on invalidate fenrir only and now they drop 20 places in ladder ... will that players be happy or will they continue playin at all after they spend real money for monster , got what they want and it disappear just like that ...

+1

Valence,

They make these types of changes all the time.
When talents was first introduce Hypojinx and Tech 2 was way overpowered every rushed to get the talents spent lots of runes to get them.

Once they realized these talents where way over powered they nerfed them significantly. They did not compenstate people. This type of balancing happens all the time in these types of games.

To let people keep Fort 2 on Cred/Fen and rain on Griff and not allow new players to get these talents is just absurb.

Exactly.

I think the current talents may be changed randomly - just a prediction! - but there might also be a compensation. For example, a Premium rune in the mail for all those with Gryphions with old talents.

Don't get me wrong i like new talents i like old ones , its just that some players pay for them with real money and u cannot just take that away ... u can nurf it u can buff it ( coz of balancing ) but remove it ... hey tomorrow they can remove your Legendary monsters and leave u one d grade and say : we are sorry but we changed eggs and now they have chance to give u only 1 monster but don't worry we compensate u with 50 coins , no matter u spend 500-1500 ... same idea of compensating me 1 ultimate rune for my griphon talent no matter i spend 25 ... got my point ? I wont even bother making griphon if there was no Rain talent ... like hours and hours of lvling , breeding pure S monsters for monster that i do not like and need without RAIN ! And i really wonder if u spend that much on ur griphon and got rain will u be happy with ur 1 rune gem compensation LOL .

Wow Haypi, you just stabbed me in the heart. I was working so hard trying to get Gryhpion. In the middle of getting 2nd scrolls. Can't do anything cause of constant lagged. Now before I even finish, you CHANGED the one reason I wanted to get Gryhpion ;(. Not kool at all. Now can someone post what are the new talents. Thanks

And since this Topic is for Gryphion talents i must say : ONLY talent that make that monster legendary was RAIN , now new talents are JOKE , it is normal monster with more speed nothing else - crap , NEON even better then this crap coz he have adapt and good matk ... Lets look at new talents and speak about them :
Forty 2 - for real ? what is the use of that crap ahahah, so u can take less dmg vs rock hmmm and how exactly will u beat that rock - maybe putting 4x execute and pray it hits ? or u will own it with ur "mighty" matk and ur "mighty" def ... u will simply be dead in 2 hits not 1 ... and u will do one more hit that will do ~20% dmg .
Invalidate - pretty good skill , but no use of it coz u have fastest monster in game and what use exactly do u have from that talent ? I "care" u are poding ur flight/hippo/water/shadow/most of nature etc when i will kill them without u have chance to hit me ... coz i am simply faster then u even u are with pod ...
Water Therapy - 2 - i wont even speak about that talent ... that need monster to put rain first etc etc , and if u face rock / lighting it will one shot u , so what exactly therapy u will get while u are dead ?
Intimidate - really ? on fastest monster in the game ? very useful ... but u need to put something before griphon ( in pvp for example ) , still i like that talent but i will never use it on so fast monster .
Rain atk : good talent , strong one with rain up ... so again u need something before ur griphon so u can use ur talent .
Static 2 : here is what i think about that talent - when i one shot monsters with that talent they always put Static on me ... so painful , i am still searching for tactic vs that OP talent ...
Not even 1 talent that look like legendary dont u think so ?
And sad true is all this coz lighting legendary from eggs need to have RAIN ... remember my words !!! They delete Gryphon coz no one will buy dumb eggs for lighting legendary . And if they do what u all want to - remove Rain - then u will have fastest legendary crap in the game , but ofc u can spend 100 bucks and pray u got new lighting from eggs .

And since this Topic is for Gryphion talents i must say : ONLY talent that make that monster legendary was RAIN , now new talents are JOKE , it is normal monster with more speed nothing else - crap , NEON even better then this crap coz he have adapt and good matk ... Lets look at new talents and speak about them :
Forty 2 - for real ? what is the use of that crap ahahah, so u can take less dmg vs rock hmmm and how exactly will u beat that rock - maybe putting 4x execute and pray it hits ? or u will own it with ur "mighty" matk and ur "mighty" def ... u will simply be dead in 2 hits not 1 ... and u will do one more hit that will do ~20% dmg .
Invalidate - pretty good skill , but no use of it coz u have fastest monster in game and what use exactly do u have from that talent ? I "care" u are poding ur flight/hippo/water/shadow/most of nature etc when i will kill them without u have chance to hit me ... coz i am simply faster then u even u are with pod ...
Water Therapy - 2 - i wont even speak about that talent ... that need monster to put rain first etc etc , and if u face rock / lighting it will one shot u , so what exactly therapy u will get while u are dead ?
Intimidate - really ? on fastest monster in the game ? very useful ... but u need to put something before griphon ( in pvp for example ) , still i like that talent but i will never use it on so fast monster .
Rain atk : good talent , strong one with rain up ... so again u need something before ur griphon so u can use ur talent .
Static 2 : here is what i think about that talent - when i one shot monsters with that talent they always put Static on me ... so painful , i am still searching for tactic vs that OP talent ...
Not even 1 talent that look like legendary dont u think so ?
And sad true is all this coz lighting legendary from eggs need to have RAIN ... remember my words !!! They delete Gryphon coz no one will buy dumb eggs for lighting legendary . And if they do what u all want to - remove Rain - then u will have fastest legendary crap in the game , but ofc u can spend 100 bucks and pray u got new lighting from eggs .

Exactly right +1

And since this Topic is for Gryphion talents i must say : ONLY talent that make that monster legendary was RAIN , now new talents are JOKE , it is normal monster with more speed nothing else - crap , NEON even better then this crap coz he have adapt and good matk ... Lets look at new talents and speak about them :
Forty 2 - for real ? what is the use of that crap ahahah, so u can take less dmg vs rock hmmm and how exactly will u beat that rock - maybe putting 4x execute and pray it hits ? or u will own it with ur "mighty" matk and ur "mighty" def ... u will simply be dead in 2 hits not 1 ... and u will do one more hit that will do ~20% dmg .
Invalidate - pretty good skill , but no use of it coz u have fastest monster in game and what use exactly do u have from that talent ? I "care" u are poding ur flight/hippo/water/shadow/most of nature etc when i will kill them without u have chance to hit me ... coz i am simply faster then u even u are with pod ...
Water Therapy - 2 - i wont even speak about that talent ... that need monster to put rain first etc etc , and if u face rock / lighting it will one shot u , so what exactly therapy u will get while u are dead ?
Intimidate - really ? on fastest monster in the game ? very useful ... but u need to put something before griphon ( in pvp for example ) , still i like that talent but i will never use it on so fast monster .
Rain atk : good talent , strong one with rain up ... so again u need something before ur griphon so u can use ur talent .
Static 2 : here is what i think about that talent - when i one shot monsters with that talent they always put Static on me ... so painful , i am still searching for tactic vs that OP talent ...
Not even 1 talent that look like legendary dont u think so ?
And sad true is all this coz lighting legendary from eggs need to have RAIN ... remember my words !!! They delete Gryphon coz no one will buy dumb eggs for lighting legendary . And if they do what u all want to - remove Rain - then u will have fastest legendary crap in the game , but ofc u can spend 100 bucks and pray u got new lighting from eggs .

Perfect analysis ,Haypi Monster should fix it,please don't force Gryphion to become trash.