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Post Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:53 pm

Re: ALLOTTED UNIT PRESTIGE 101

King. wrote:Prestige per unit also goes down slowly the higher lvl you go up

That's included in the equation I listed above. :)
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Erraven wrote:I found out. :)
Resource consumption/300*(1-lvl/30)=prestige per unit built. In pvp I started out getting 40% not the 1/3 that people said as well. This was for main building and troops. I suspect that prestige for everything prestige wise is based solely on resource used and level:)


resource consumption=stone+wood+iron+crop?

if so, then inf for me, a lvl 11, would be

440/300* (-10/30)<== thats the problem and people will get confused it should be written like this

Res.Cons./300*(1-(lvl/30)) now its 440/300*19/30= .93pres which is more accurate then a negative pres value :D

hope this helps and thx ofr the orig. equation though ive been looking for it for a few months now

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Post Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:26 pm

Re: ALLOTTED UNIT PRESTIGE 101

Qwertqwert wrote:
Erraven wrote:I found out. :)
Resource consumption/300*(1-lvl/30)=prestige per unit built. In pvp I started out getting 40% not the 1/3 that people said as well. This was for main building and troops. I suspect that prestige for everything prestige wise is based solely on resource used and level:)


resource consumption=stone+wood+iron+crop?

if so, then inf for me, a lvl 11, would be

440/300* (-10/30)<== thats the problem and people will get confused it should be written like this

Res.Cons./300*(1-(lvl/30)) now its 440/300*19/30= .93pres which is more accurate then a negative pres value :D

hope this helps and thx ofr the orig. equation though ive been looking for it for a few months now


This'll probably end up being a double post for me, but say you're making 200 cats as a lv 11...

The resource cost is 1800 wood, 780 stone, 990 iron, and 250 crop per unit.
So resource cost is 3,820. So... 3,820*200=764,000
764,000/300*(1-11/30) so 2,546.6666*(1-.3666666) ....so... 2,546.6666*.6333334=1,612.889. Rounding to 1,613 prestige. :)

For one cat as a lv 11.. 3,820/300 is 12.733333, 11/30 is .3666666, and 1-.3666666 is .6333334. So 12.733333*.6333334=8.064445. So if you make one cat right now, you should get 8 prestige. :)

I'm lv 17, as a test to make sure this formula still works... one cat:
The same 12.7333333 for one cat, 17/30=.5666666, and
1-.5666666=.4333334. So 12.7333333*.4333334=5.5177784. Means i'll get only 5.5177784 points per cat if I produce many, but 5.5 rounding to about 6 if I produce only 1.
I just made 1 cat and got 6 prestige after typing the above out. :)
Now i'll make 50 cats and see if I get 6 prestige per unit...
I didn't I got 276 prestige for making 50 cats whereas if each units prestige was rounded i should have received 300 prestige. Though multiplying by just 5.5 doesn't complete the math either, meaning only the final number, after all math was done, was rounded.
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Post Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:39 am

Re: ALLOTTED UNIT PRESTIGE 101

Great info, thanks.

I believe the more lvl you are, the less prestige you get.
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Post Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:48 am

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Actually I think it's At level one a cat gives 12 pres and it decreases every level like till it only gives 7.5 pres per cat u make but then again only what I heard not a proven fact yet
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Post Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:38 am

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The formula has been posted multiple times... here, for those of you that keep posting that you heard it decreases per level...I'll do a ton of math and show EXACTLY how much it changes per level...sigh... for those of you unwilling to read up,
the final number is the only thing that rounds so if you get 5.5 prestige per cat and make 1, you'll get 6, but if you make two, you'll get 11 prestige...not 12.

FORMULA
(Total resources*amount trained)/300))*(1-(lv/30))

TOTAL RESOURCES PER 1 UNIT
Infantry- 440, Cavalry- 1940, Archers- 960, Catapults- 3820

(TOTAL RESOURCES*1)/300
Infantry-1.4666666, Cavalry- 6.4666666, Archers- 3.2, Catapults-12.733333

LEVEL/30
1-.0333333, 2-.0666666, 3-.1, 4-.1333333, 5-.1666666, 6-.2, 7-.2333333, 8-.2666666, 9-.3, 10-.3333333, 11-.3666666, 12-.4, 13-.4333333, 14 .4666666, 15-.5, 16-.5333333, 17-.5666666, 18-.6, 19-.6333333, 20 .6666666

(1-(LV/30))
1-.9666667, 2-.9333334, 3-.9, 4-.8666667, 5-.8333334, 6-.8, 7-.7666667, 8-.7333334, 9-.7, 10-.6666667, 11.-.6333334, 12-.6, 13 .5666667,14 .5333334, 15-.5, 16-.4666667, 17-.4333334, 18-.4, 19 .3666667, 20-.3333334

(TOTAL RESOURCES*1)/300 - PER UNIT
Infantry-1.4666666, Cavalry- 6.4666666, Archers- 3.2, Catapults-12.733333

PRESTIGE PER LEVEL WHEN MULTIPLE UNITS ARE TRAINED
Lv1- Inf-1.4177777, Cav-6.2511112, Arch-3.0933334, Cat-12.308888
Lv2- Inf-1.3688889, Cav-6.0355559, Arch-2.9866668, Cat-11.884444
Lv3- Inf-1.3199999, Cav-5.8199999, Arch-2.8800000, Cat-11.459999
Lv4- Inf-1.2711111, Cav-5.6044446, Arch-2.7733334, Cat-11.035555
Lv5- Inf-1.2222222, Cav-5.3888892, Arch-2.6666668, Cat-10.611111
Lv6- Inf-1.1733332, Cav-5.1733332, Arch-2.5600000, Cat-10.186666
Lv7- Inf-1.1244444, Cav-4.9577779, Arch-2.4533334, Cat-9.7622223
Lv8- Inf-1.0755556, Cav-4.7422226, Arch-2.3466668, Cat-9.3377783
Lv9- Inf-1.0266666, Cav-4.5266666, Arch-2.2400000, Cat-8.9133331
L10- Inf-.9777777, Cav-4.3111112, Arch-2.1333334, Cat-8.4888890
L11- Inf-.9288889, Cav-4.0955559, Arch-2.0266668, Cat-8.0644450
L12- Inf-.8799999, Cav-3.8799999, Arch-1.9200000, Cat-7.6399998
L13- Inf-.8311111, Cav-3.6644446, Arch-1.8133334, Cat-7.2155557
L14- Inf-.7822222, Cav-3.4488892, Arch-1.7066668, Cat-6.7911117
L15- Inf-.7333333, Cav-3.2333333, Arch-1.6000000, Cat-6.3666665
L16- Inf-.6844444, Cav-3.0177779, Arch-1.4933334, Cat-5.9422224
L17- Inf-.6355556, Cav-2.8022225, Arch-1.3866668, Cat-5.5177784
L18- Inf-.5866666, Cav-2.5866666, Arch-1.2800000, Cat-5.0933332
L19- Inf-.5377778, Cav-2.2711113, Arch-1.1733334, Cat-4.6688891
L20- Inf-.4888889, Cav-2.1555559, Arch-1.0666668, Cat-4.2444451

The final figure always rounds, but not each individual unit when you train several. If you divide the prestige you receive from the prestige you get from training one of the units at a level in the chart and don't get the exact number, it's might be because my calculator is rounding. I've been using this formula through levels 16 and 17 and they work for me. :)
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Post Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:54 am

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Very helpful.
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Post Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:39 am

Re: ALLOTTED UNIT PRESTIGE 101

Hey if someone wants to give me the stats like resource and prestige and so on and so forth for units. I can build a spread sheet showing how much prestige is earned for mass producing units or single producing. so if someone gave me a quick note or letter i could write that up. :D :D
If i am given the accurate information this spreadsheet would help new members. :) 8-) I know when i started i wished there was a formal chart.
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Post Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:00 am

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You could just look at my chart, find your level, find the unit you plan to train, take the number beside it and multiply the number shown by the number you are training, then round. lol.
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Post Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:09 am

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This has help me alot
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Post Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:49 am

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This is the second guide I've read on this forum that has incorrectly listed the build time of catapults.
I understand your numbers are based on a lv 20 barracks. If this is the case, the build time for a cat is Not 336 seconds like you said, but 70 seconds, meaning that the 1 prestige/28 seconds comparison you suggest for your poor cats is waaaay off.
Hope this helps, and I believe an edit is in order :)
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