How to control the server without using a lot of coins
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:03 pm
Today, I want to elaborate how to control server with not using a lot of coins. Ofcourse you need to spend some more time on the game.
To gain the control of a server, you need to get respected, ofcourse a lot of money and being a player with a lot of prestige + a good alliance is never wrong.
First I will tell you how to get the respect.
Ofcourse, you have to be in chat. There are a lot of people and it is also fun chatting there. Be nice and helpful, you get respected if you show respect to others. Also you can try to get friends with the leaders of top alliances. You may get in war with them, but it is still a game, almost nobody takes it that serious, that they dont speak with you anymore. Find a top alliance. Be also in alliance chat.
You may also get expert when you are in chat, are helpful, nice and so on. But being expert is a double-edged sword.
First, you will earn respect, but you also have to mute people. DONT mute people you just dont like if they didnt do anything wrong. DONT be biased. Thats against the expert rules, and people will begin to disrespect you.
DONT even bend the rules too strong. As an expert you have to work between borders. But this borders can be bent. I tell you: Dont do this too often/ too strong. People may not know as much about rules as they should, they will cause trouble in WC.
Whats next?
You got respect, but you need some power, some force.
Being leader of the top #1 alliance gives you a lot of power, also being the #1 player.
How to get the leader of a top alliance?
If you havent beenone of the first players in the server, and know who is a good player and who is not, your chance may be very low, if you dont work hard. Getting a top player is MUCH easier.
You DONT need coins to warp (would be very useful tho)
You DONT need to search the whole map for hits and try to kill the troops
It is much easier.
You know there is a lot of "free space" in Haypi. Put your sub cities(maybe even your main) there, but watch out that you spread your subs.
First, you make an own map for each of your cities. a 50*50 map should be sufficient.
You will find a lot of fortified points (and belive me, you will need the ressources) and oasis.
Exchange the numbers as shown in chart below
0=4
1=7
2=10
3=3
4=6
5=9
6=2
7=5
8=8
9=1
the level of the oasis is shown left.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO THE MAPS ALL ON THE SAME DAY
The number right shows the amount of the days the oasis needs to get level 9 again.
Second, max your cities. When you are expert or buy coins, you can also get some lvl 16/17 (or higher if you want) crop fields.
Now, build 500 cats in a random city. You need it to take crop oasis.
Take the oasis, and take new ones every day(or same if you resign them before 24h )
I RECOMMEND TO TAKE NEW OASIS EVERY DAY, because potential croppers, may put the places of your oasis into their Fav. list
Now build infantry or cavalry. Build as much as you can afford feeding.
Here comes the important point:
Hunt with our troops in 3 hunts/ each city, in lvl 9 oasis only (thats why you needed the days the oasis need to get lvl 9,)
Hunt for like 2-4 h, it will gain the most money, with higher time you will get less money per troop and per second. Now you wonder why most recommend to hunt 8h plus, as the tutorial tells us? If you hunt for more than 8h, the chance of failing hunts is even higher BUT theres also a chance of extraordianry hunts. In my opinion it is better to rely on the small hunts, as attack is more reliable than fortune with double/triple attacks.
Because you have to take new oasis each hunt, i recomment to write the oasis you hunted on down on a paper.
Also farm the low fortified points (lvl 1-4) with your infantry/cavalry. It will give you extra ressources.
But what the hell do with that many resources/ money?
First you can even increase your money. Buy scepters or other treasures or even ressources for low prices and sell for high (the prices of the ressources change at the day, so you have to look when the prices are low and when they are high) the more treasures you get (i recommend scepters, medals or even crowns) the more you can control the market (also pointed out in taem96s guide here:http://www.haypi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12954)
But you can not only control the treasure market. You can also control the market of the ressources.
Theres always supply and demand. Increase the demand, and the prices will rise. Controlling the ressources´market isnt that important.
After you increased your money and you got full warehouses build troops.
You may build 15336 workers worth troopsper city
Let'S check what kind of troops are the best.
Infantry take a lot of time, 114 seconds basis
Cavalry are faster build 263 seconds/one basis(65,75 seconds per worker)
Archer are slower build again, 178 seconds/one basis (89 sec per worker)
catapults are the fastest units, 350 seconds/one basis ( 35! sec per worker)
(barracks improves time for 4% each lvl)
But we want to gain prestige through this troops
the basis prestige are
Infantry:1,4666
Cavalry:6,4666 (1,61666 per worker)
Archer: 3,2 (1,6 per worker)
Catapults:12,73333 (1,27333 per worker)
you calculate the gained pres with this formula:
basis pres * (1-lvl/30)
Now we can calculate wich troops, gives us the most prestige per second.
Infantry: 1,4666/114=0.01287 pres per second(basis), 1111.579 per day (basis)
Cavalry: 1,61666/65.75=0.0245 pres per second (basis), 2124,41 per day (basis)
Archer: 1,6/89=0.017978 pres per second (basis), 1553,258 pres per day (basis)
Catapults: 1.273333/35=0.03638 pres per secomd (basis), 3143,314 pres per day (basis)
This prestige can get up to 5 times more than the basis pres.
So obviously the cats gives us the most pres, then Cav the archer then infantry.
You have to calculate on your own, how many Catapults you can build per day (86400/time cats need in seconds), and fill the rest up with cav, then with arch, inf
The max amount of pres you can get out of one city through this is:
16209+4213+3=20425
Ofcourse you have to suicide the build troops.
You arent getting prestige alone through building, your hunts will also give you 1/50 prestige of the hunted money. If you hunt about 500k money (possible, believe me) you will gain 10k pres+ the prestige through building.
If you have done all correctly, you hav e now control about the server
Oh and experts..... for you refuse war would be free (5o coins/ 5 day refuse)
Uranos
To gain the control of a server, you need to get respected, ofcourse a lot of money and being a player with a lot of prestige + a good alliance is never wrong.
First I will tell you how to get the respect.
Ofcourse, you have to be in chat. There are a lot of people and it is also fun chatting there. Be nice and helpful, you get respected if you show respect to others. Also you can try to get friends with the leaders of top alliances. You may get in war with them, but it is still a game, almost nobody takes it that serious, that they dont speak with you anymore. Find a top alliance. Be also in alliance chat.
You may also get expert when you are in chat, are helpful, nice and so on. But being expert is a double-edged sword.
First, you will earn respect, but you also have to mute people. DONT mute people you just dont like if they didnt do anything wrong. DONT be biased. Thats against the expert rules, and people will begin to disrespect you.
DONT even bend the rules too strong. As an expert you have to work between borders. But this borders can be bent. I tell you: Dont do this too often/ too strong. People may not know as much about rules as they should, they will cause trouble in WC.
Whats next?
You got respect, but you need some power, some force.
Being leader of the top #1 alliance gives you a lot of power, also being the #1 player.
How to get the leader of a top alliance?
If you havent beenone of the first players in the server, and know who is a good player and who is not, your chance may be very low, if you dont work hard. Getting a top player is MUCH easier.
You DONT need coins to warp (would be very useful tho)
You DONT need to search the whole map for hits and try to kill the troops
It is much easier.
You know there is a lot of "free space" in Haypi. Put your sub cities(maybe even your main) there, but watch out that you spread your subs.
First, you make an own map for each of your cities. a 50*50 map should be sufficient.
You will find a lot of fortified points (and belive me, you will need the ressources) and oasis.
Exchange the numbers as shown in chart below
0=4
1=7
2=10
3=3
4=6
5=9
6=2
7=5
8=8
9=1
the level of the oasis is shown left.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DO THE MAPS ALL ON THE SAME DAY
The number right shows the amount of the days the oasis needs to get level 9 again.
Second, max your cities. When you are expert or buy coins, you can also get some lvl 16/17 (or higher if you want) crop fields.
Now, build 500 cats in a random city. You need it to take crop oasis.
Take the oasis, and take new ones every day(or same if you resign them before 24h )
I RECOMMEND TO TAKE NEW OASIS EVERY DAY, because potential croppers, may put the places of your oasis into their Fav. list
Now build infantry or cavalry. Build as much as you can afford feeding.
Here comes the important point:
Hunt with our troops in 3 hunts/ each city, in lvl 9 oasis only (thats why you needed the days the oasis need to get lvl 9,)
Hunt for like 2-4 h, it will gain the most money, with higher time you will get less money per troop and per second. Now you wonder why most recommend to hunt 8h plus, as the tutorial tells us? If you hunt for more than 8h, the chance of failing hunts is even higher BUT theres also a chance of extraordianry hunts. In my opinion it is better to rely on the small hunts, as attack is more reliable than fortune with double/triple attacks.
Because you have to take new oasis each hunt, i recomment to write the oasis you hunted on down on a paper.
Also farm the low fortified points (lvl 1-4) with your infantry/cavalry. It will give you extra ressources.
But what the hell do with that many resources/ money?
First you can even increase your money. Buy scepters or other treasures or even ressources for low prices and sell for high (the prices of the ressources change at the day, so you have to look when the prices are low and when they are high) the more treasures you get (i recommend scepters, medals or even crowns) the more you can control the market (also pointed out in taem96s guide here:http://www.haypi.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12954)
But you can not only control the treasure market. You can also control the market of the ressources.
Theres always supply and demand. Increase the demand, and the prices will rise. Controlling the ressources´market isnt that important.
After you increased your money and you got full warehouses build troops.
You may build 15336 workers worth troopsper city
Let'S check what kind of troops are the best.
Infantry take a lot of time, 114 seconds basis
Cavalry are faster build 263 seconds/one basis(65,75 seconds per worker)
Archer are slower build again, 178 seconds/one basis (89 sec per worker)
catapults are the fastest units, 350 seconds/one basis ( 35! sec per worker)
(barracks improves time for 4% each lvl)
But we want to gain prestige through this troops
the basis prestige are
Infantry:1,4666
Cavalry:6,4666 (1,61666 per worker)
Archer: 3,2 (1,6 per worker)
Catapults:12,73333 (1,27333 per worker)
you calculate the gained pres with this formula:
basis pres * (1-lvl/30)
Now we can calculate wich troops, gives us the most prestige per second.
Infantry: 1,4666/114=0.01287 pres per second(basis), 1111.579 per day (basis)
Cavalry: 1,61666/65.75=0.0245 pres per second (basis), 2124,41 per day (basis)
Archer: 1,6/89=0.017978 pres per second (basis), 1553,258 pres per day (basis)
Catapults: 1.273333/35=0.03638 pres per secomd (basis), 3143,314 pres per day (basis)
This prestige can get up to 5 times more than the basis pres.
So obviously the cats gives us the most pres, then Cav the archer then infantry.
You have to calculate on your own, how many Catapults you can build per day (86400/time cats need in seconds), and fill the rest up with cav, then with arch, inf
The max amount of pres you can get out of one city through this is:
16209+4213+3=20425
Ofcourse you have to suicide the build troops.
You arent getting prestige alone through building, your hunts will also give you 1/50 prestige of the hunted money. If you hunt about 500k money (possible, believe me) you will gain 10k pres+ the prestige through building.
If you have done all correctly, you hav e now control about the server
Oh and experts..... for you refuse war would be free (5o coins/ 5 day refuse)
Uranos