Decoding War Prestige.

Looking for any assistance here. I'm trying to get a better understanding of the War Prestige formula. There are a couple of threads on the subject, but I want to start fresh since none of them seem (in my anecdotal observations) to accurately reflect the formulas in question.

To start with, Haypi states that prestige gain/loss is calculated in war as A-(R*B) with A being Losing Party losses, B being Winner losses, and R being the "weighting coefficient". So far, so good.

The most basic element is calculating A and B, player losses. There are two differing formulas on this forum. One being 1,2,4,10 (Inf/Cav/Arch/Cat) and the other being 1,6,3,12, respectively. From my observations, it appears that the 1,6,3,12 theory is accurate. Any expert opinions to confirm or refute that? All educated opinions are most welcome to chime in.

The harder part of the formula is calculating how R, the weighting coefficient is determined.
On the boards I found it described as ((Loser level - Winner level)/2) with the example of:
"13 (Loser Level) - 14 (Winner Level) is -1.
-1/2 is -0.5
-0.5 + 1 is 0.5
That means you only gain half of what you would per kill since he's 1 level below you.
If he had won he would have gained 1.5 times more the prestige normally gained."

That formula just doesn't work in practical application.
Here are a set of actual battles where I was able to reverse engineer R [R=(loser losses - War Prestige)/winner losses)], but have yet to be able to decode how Haypi calculates R. In all cases, I was level 6.
Opponent level 10 (difference of +4), R= .73 (78 W losses, 1117 L losses)
Opponent level 7 (difference of +1), R= 1.02 (198 W losses, 547 L losses)
Opponent level 6 (difference of 0), R= 1.01 (180 W losses, 519 L losses)
Opponent level 4 (difference of -2), R= 1.60 (102 W losses, 339 L losses)
Opponent level 3 (difference of -3), R= 2.08 (642 W losses, 1892 L losses)

More data is needed for me to draw any conclusion directly from the numbers, but I wanted to put this info out to the crowd to see if anybody has any credible info on this subject. Plus, prestige can be deceiving if the loser hits the level cap. While is it fair to conclude that attacking below/above your level has an impact on prestige, it would be nice to understand the nuts and bolts a little better.

Finally, an interesting point: It appears that Weighting Coefficient does not factor in when attacking a manned Oasis. The points I received when level 6 attacking oasis owned/occupied by a level 9 title player were exactly equal to A-B. (and equal to the 1,3,6,12 point values referenced above, 22 Cav losses beating 44 Cats resulted in 408 prestige).

To clear up your understanding a little, it is important to understand when the weighting coefficient is used.

The coefficient only comes into play when looking at the relative merits of your losses, not kills.

Assuming you kill 1000 cats .. lets assume the number is 10 (I'm sure it is...) then you should be getting 10,000 prestige. If you take no losses, you will always get 10,000 prestige, no matter your level.

If you take losses, and you are of an equal level, the losses are simply taken off your gains ... so killed 1000 lost 300 would make your net gain 7000 prestige (10000 - 3000 = 7000)

When your levels differ, the above happens, but the 3000 is multiplied by "x" to give the actual deduction.

I've yet to see a formula that gets it right every time .. but something like "3x the level difference" works as a rule of thumb.

War Prestige = A - (R * B) = X

R = Min {[ABS(loser lvl-winner lvl)/2+1]}
R = (2 {Loser level} - 1 {Winner Level}) / 2 + 1 = 1.5
R = 1.5

50 - (1 * 25) = 25
Winner would recieve 25 prestige. Loser recieves -25 prestige.

75 - (2 * 10) = 55
Winner would recieve 55 prestige. Loser recieves -55 prestige.

A: The losing party's loss

R: A weighting coefficient. The coefficient is included in calculating battle losses when one party is much stronger than the other in a battle.

B: The winning party's loss

X: The total prestige lost or gained.

Two players of the same title have a coefficient of 1.

Prestige will only drop to the minimum prestige requirement of your current title.

shouldnt this be in haypi guides or am i lost?

Phill: completely agree, except for the last part about 3x.

Ballaz: not sure if you are referring to the info I'm seeking, or this thread itself. The info on guides is scant and may not be accurate, which is why I started this thread. If you meant this thread should be in guides, I don't think so since it's an unresolved question.

Vayne: Thanx for posting. Yes, I am familiar with the info you posted. My confusion lays in the fact that my battle data simply doesn't jive with that formula. I'm not questioning you or your expertise, i'm just trying to understand why my results differ in every case.

It's worked fine for me every time I've tried it out. The formula I posted is a little more complex than just the A - (R * B) = X.

Can you send out the coefficient?

the coefficient is the level differential am i wrong?

btw i love not having a treasure and a guy not getting in pres bc i should be level 14 when im level 9:)

shouldnt this be in haypi guides or am i lost?

No, It's a question...

The coefficient changes based on level difference. It's not as simple as a 6 vs 8 is a coefficient of 2. There's a lot more to it.