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InsaneO

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Post Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:14 am

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Bigcwh wrote:Umm I think u guys are overlooking the largest variable u can't see which is how many troops are hunting from that city. Nor in the examples shown do u have any idea of how many troops starved only the amount that didn't starve so all these situations r different as they contain different numbers of troops. But hey maybe I'm crazy.

Ps I'm not crazy :lol:

Plus maybe in these situations theyre crop enhancements gave out at the same time you hit their oasis. It's rare but it could happen.

Umm I think you are overlooking the fact that as long as they are scoutable, you can see their crop output. You can see how long it will take someone to starve if you can scout them. Let's just use some round numbers for example.

Someone has 100k crops and is losing 1k per hour. They also have 5 level 7 oases for 9500-19000/hr (based on tech level). This is similar to what I said above, but with even lower level oases. Imagine with that example you take the first 3 oases in 20 minutes and then they suddenly starve. Even if you took all of their oases it should be about 5-9 hours, or half that with max break cranny. Yet somehow it happens instantly.

THAT is what is happening.
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Post Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:02 am

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Bigcwh wrote:Umm I think u guys are overlooking the largest variable u can't see which is how many troops are hunting from that city. Nor in the examples shown do u have any idea of how many troops starved only the amount that didn't starve so all these situations r different as they contain different numbers of troops. But hey maybe I'm crazy.

Ps I'm not crazy :lol:

Plus maybe in these situations theyre crop enhancements gave out at the same time you hit their oasis. It's rare but it could happen.


What you see as the attacker doesn't affect how people starve. Some people will have max scout tech, and be unscoutable. Does this mean they can't be starved? No, of course not.

They will still starve at the same rate as anyone else....30% now and 30% every hour thereafter until there are crops or no crop deficit.

Plain and simple.
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Taem96

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Post Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:11 am

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InsaneO wrote:The same thing happened yesterday when I cropped two people. I was expecting to wait at least an hour after taking a couple oases but it suddenly dropped to 0 which made no sense. Something isn't right here.


And FYI... crops don't grow in mines.


Well, assuming it's not a glitch (which is very unlikely here) I'd say there's plenty of ways to explain this.....

Have you considered that the general came online and didn't notice their crop loss and built more troops, thus using up the remainder of their crop as well as increasing their crop deficit?

Or how about the idea that their army was large enough as to create a situation where troops were forced home rather quickly? Perhaps their crop deficit was over -200k.... This would use 50k crop in 15 minutes......

One of the key details you're leaving out in this scenario is how many troops the guy had after starving, when you attacked him. Assuming you did attack him and see his troops count, which after starving would be 30% less....
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Post Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:04 am

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Taem96 wrote:
InsaneO wrote:The same thing happened yesterday when I cropped two people. I was expecting to wait at least an hour after taking a couple oases but it suddenly dropped to 0 which made no sense. Something isn't right here.


And FYI... crops don't grow in mines.


Well, assuming it's not a glitch (which is very unlikely here) I'd say there's plenty of ways to explain this.....

Have you considered that the general came online and didn't notice their crop loss and built more troops, thus using up the remainder of their crop as well as increasing their crop deficit?

Or how about the idea that their army was large enough as to create a situation where troops were forced home rather quickly? Perhaps their crop deficit was over -200k.... This would use 50k crop in 15 minutes......

One of the key details you're leaving out in this scenario is how many troops the guy had after starving, when you attacked him. Assuming you did attack him and see his troops count, which after starving would be 30% less....


when it happened to me the max crop consummption wqas -50k which would have taken an hour, plus i didnt take all his oases so it was obnly around -25k
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Post Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:12 pm

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The point is....there's many ways for this to happen....it's not really something that can't be explained.

Perhaps someone else took his other oases, coincidentally, creating a larger deficit. Or maybe he had troops come out of production ATM, increasing the deficit.

Think about the ways crop gets removed from a warehouse and you'll see many other possibilities.....building, upgrading, decide to refresh oasis so resign them all, sell it on market, crop enhance runs out....the list goes on....just think outside the box
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Post Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:46 pm

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he wasnt online mate nothing can reduce crop by 50,000 in an instant that they then dont hide the troops that are left. it definatelly just jumped down to 0 and showed me the troops
how do you let people know if your hot cakes are selling well?

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Post Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:21 am

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idk. maybe an army of 1 mill cats could, nate.... lol

well, actually, i think what you should look for is their crop level lowering. if it is dropping, they probly arent on, either.
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Post Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:50 am

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It's just like 20k crop is dissapearing when I took an oases
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