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IronGrip

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Post Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:40 am

Re: Alliance War Guide

There's something not quite right about these formulas.

R=Min {[ABS (level of the defeated alliance – level of the winning alliance)/2+1], 5}

The prestige gained by the winner = (the equivalent of the defeated alliance’s troops – the equivalent of the winning alliance’s troops/R)/100


Suppose that the defeated alliance loses 10k cats while the winning alliance loses 5k cats.

Case 1: If the two alliance are the same level, then

R = Min {[ABS(1-1)/2+1],5} = MIN {1,5} = 1.

So the winning alliance gains

((100,000-50,000)/1)/100 = 500 prestige


Case 2: If the defeated alliance is level 2 and the winning alliance is level 1, then

R = MIN {[ABS(2-1)/2+1],5} = MIN {1.5,5} = 1.5.

So the winning alliance gains

((100,000-50,000)/1.5)/100 ~ 333 prestige

even though they defeated a higher level alliance. :?

I'm not sure what was intended to happen, but this surely can't be it. Some clarification on how the difference in levels of the two opposing alliances truly affects the prestige gained by the winner would be appreciated. In particular, what is the correct formula?

Feel free to check my arithmetic, but I've gone over it many times just in case I missed something.

EDIT: Now includes my computations for the indicated R values that I mentioned.

N.B. The result of Case two would make sense if the winning alliance was the higher level alliance.

EDIT: I realize now that the brackets in the formula for R are denoting the floor function. So in Case 2, R = MINI {1,5} = 1, which makes it much better for this case. However, the following case presents a problem:

Case 3: If the defeated alliance is level 3 and the winning alliance is level 1, then

R = MIN {[ABS(3-1)/2+1],5} = 2

So the winning alliance gains

((100,000-50,000)/2)/100 = 250 prestige

even though they defeated an alliance 2 levels higher than them. So there's still a problem. Or I'm still missing something here.
Last edited by IronGrip on Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:36 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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R0GUE

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Post Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:37 am

Re: Alliance War Guide

It's base stats at the start guys,
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bertoq

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Post Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:37 pm

Re: Alliance War Guide

nIcKrOx wrote:^^^^ at least your army wasn't huge, so I guess it hurts a little less



Thank you for your less than helpful opinion Nick and for removing my last post.
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nIcKrOx

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:03 am

Re: Alliance War Guide

Sorry, but it's true. My allianc has lost over 4x your amount of lost troops due to glitching, and I know alliances that have lost more
\-Haypi Kingdom-/
Server102-King
Server83-1st Earl
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May his noodly appendages keep us from floating up to the sky.
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Jebus1

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:03 pm

Re: Alliance War Guide

I.Am.Stauf wrote:
Arythy wrote:
TamMum wrote:Great. Do you have a version in English?

It already is in English... O_O


Lol, I think he meant in simplified English. I just wrote an explanation up, in simpler terms, and posted it in general discussion. Hope it helps :)


Nice verse :)
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Skylab

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:32 pm

Re: Alliance War Guide

when we occupied a mine we dispatched troops. Just before we dispatched we got attacked and lost the war. instead of the troops returning to the alliance they simply vanished. Can anyone confirm that this is correct or if it is a bug ?

Greets

Sky
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nIcKrOx

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:05 pm

Re: Alliance War Guide

Its a bug.... and your army is now gone

Sorry bout that, just learn from it and dont do it again :)
\-Haypi Kingdom-/
Server102-King
Server83-1st Earl
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\-Haypi Monster-/
Server2-Lvl 19

May his noodly appendages keep us from floating up to the sky.
Ramen.


FSM
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DarkJango

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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:14 am

Re: Alliance War Guide

I think that this was a great idea to do i play on server 81 mainly and and i i love this great job haypi. Darkness24
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hypester28

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Post Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:55 pm

Re: Alliance War Guide

[code][/code]so let's say I want to quit an alliance and join another one do I lose my honor points as well as my contribution points
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nIcKrOx

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Post Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:36 am

Re: Alliance War Guide

I believe you lose contribution points

You keep honor points
\-Haypi Kingdom-/
Server102-King
Server83-1st Earl
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\-Haypi Monster-/
Server2-Lvl 19

May his noodly appendages keep us from floating up to the sky.
Ramen.


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