Mines

true, but since alliance ranks are based on the alliance wars, now, a lot of smaller alliances can get higher ranks from commanding in the wars, instead of having higher level players

true true. but is it a true reflection of an alliances strength. anyway drifting off topic now. question asked and answered

yes. it is not a true showing of an alliances strength.... but not everyone thinks that stuff through.

(and yes, nate its been answered, but haypi staff usually gets on late at night)

no i mean i think we've answered paulys question enough... now were on topics that should be in other threads

what if we focus on the fact that mines in general are mostly just a way to get alliances active.